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    Please keep this topic on track and play nice, Everyone is qualified to give their own opinion, just because you dislike what is said and have a differing opinion doesn't make it wrong. This is directed at all the Protagonists on this thread.

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    I have no appreciation of sealed items myself with AFA graded sealed boxes, In general I like to take my TF's out and display them. Seems like a complete waste of time having a Transformer that you don't get to transform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowspearer View Post
    I take back my being nice about this, you ARE completely unqualified on this topic and it shows itself in spades as you continue to show a complete inability to grasp the way history and archeology work if you think that those studying ancient societies ONLY care about unique paintings and works of art. You're like someone with no building qualifictions trying to argue with a builder that the foundations to a building or supporting walls aren't needed on a house and it shows a mile off.
    Or, to remove this new straw man argument, in this case, I'm literally someone who's had tertiary History qualifications for over a decade, post graduate History qualifications since 2002, who has subsequently been employed in the field of History as a result, and is arguing with someone who still has no qualifications, an imaginary post graduate qualification and imaginary doctorate.

    None of which is relevant to the fact that it is impossible to be unqualified to have the opinion that AFA grading is daft.

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    btw is the AFA case airtight? I haven't really seen one in person so just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liegeprime View Post
    btw is the AFA case airtight? I haven't really seen one in person so just curious.
    I don't think it is but having it not being vacuum sealed defeats this whole 'historical preservation' argument and makes the box just an artificially expensive gimmick.

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    too pricey for me. A MOSC or boxed toy is pretty much the same to me as an AFA graded one. - just for me
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    We have to start somewhere with grading the quality of our toys/packaging, and I guess the AFA exists as so that they can make it an 'official' procedure.

    Though I'm not fussed with MISB/MOSC toys myself, I can understand how annoyed buyers would be if they bought a damaged box from a seller claiming MISB. With an AFA-graded item, the seller would be more confident in buying the product (if they were willing to fork out the extra $$$) and knowing that it would come in graded-condition (if done right of course) based on the reputation of the AFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
    Or, to remove this new straw man argument, in this case, I'm literally someone who's had tertiary History qualifications for over a decade, post graduate History qualifications since 2002, who has subsequently been employed in the field of History as a result, and is arguing with someone who still has no qualifications, an imaginary post graduate qualification and imaginary doctorate.

    None of which is relevant to the fact that it is impossible to be unqualified to have the opinion that AFA grading is daft.
    Then presuming your major and post grad studies are in ancient history as opposed to modern history you should be very aware of why ancient rubbish dumps are an historian's best friend, and it's not because they might contain priceless works of art- something even an undergrad talking to a lecturer for 5 mins is aware of.

    Furthermore the sidetracked argument was about archiving toys instead of playing with them, which ties right back into the AFA argument. The gradings themselves are on the verge of being less trustworthy, but the acrylic cases make a huge difference in preservation. Yes they're not sealed to prevent "sweating" (the gap is more like a lack of a weld- it's still flush) but keeping them in an airtight container in turn is a way around that. But about the only thing that could fit through the gap is bacteria and maybe dust mites.

    That said if there was a non-AFA option locally to do the same thing for less, I'd take it in a heartbeat with how much of a killer the shipping back and forth is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janda the red View Post
    so far all the G1 stuff i've gotten hasn't been afa'd, but i am looking at grabbing a few of their cases to protect my precious lil babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1orion2many View Post
    I have no appreciation of sealed items myself with AFA graded sealed boxes, In general I like to take my TF's out and display them. Seems like a complete waste of time having a Transformer that you don't get to transform.
    Action Masters? hehe do decoys count as transformers?

    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    I don't think it is but having it not being vacuum sealed defeats this whole 'historical preservation' argument and makes the box just an artificially expensive gimmick.
    Anything can be regarded as an expensive gimmick, to me an ipad is an expensive gimmick! They are not going to last I tell ya!

    Quote Originally Posted by bowspearer View Post
    That said if there was a non-AFA option locally to do the same thing for less, I'd take it in a heartbeat with how much of a killer the shipping back and forth is.
    I have sent maybe 30+ figures for grading to AFA in the US - it is alot cheaper to find a nice MISB item and get it graded than pay the buy now prices on ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullcruncher View Post

    Anything can be regarded as an expensive gimmick, to me an ipad is an expensive gimmick! They are not going to last I tell ya!
    lol that is EXACTLY how I feel about the Ipad

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