The Soapbox

[STL]

Just watching the movie again w/ my lil sister who's on holidays and man that first kill still gets u.

But what actually reminded me of one of my major gripes was Daniel. No, he's not annoying but heck, Blurr and Arcee abandoned him in mid-fight - running on w/out him. Prime'd be rolling in his grave!

[Paulbot]

No, he's not annoying but heck, Blurr and Arcee abandoned him in mid-fight - running on w/out him. Prime'd be rolling in his grave!

I always get annoyed that the Autobots leave Blaster behind on Earth to hold off the Decepticons all by himself while they flee in their shuttles. Ultra Magnus also takes off before Arcee gets in as well. "We can't wait" says Springer when Arcee wants to wait for Hot Rod and Kup to make it back to the city. I guess the Autobots are a bit colder in the future.

[dirge]

Nah they left Eject, Rewind, Ramhorn, Steeljaw & Snarl to keep Blaster company.

[loophole]

what about Grapple you see him on the battlefield shooting at the Decepticons for a brief moment he's gotta be keeping Blaster company too!!! you dont actually see him die

[Tiby]

Well done STL - a very enjoyable read! I find myself agreeing with you.

However, I still do see TFTM as a way to introduce new toys pretty quickly. The initial battle kills off the G1 catalogue pretty thoroughly. I guess what I'm saying is that capitalism was alive and well in TFTM. Being aimed at Transformers fans (primarily kids at that time), the makers (and Hasbro) were looking to start up sales of a whole new series of cheaper to make, more durable and less licensed toys.

That's not to say that they did not pull it off without adding all of those plusses you mentioned. I too watch TFTM when I am need of an injection of classic TF goodness, but for me TFM shows the Transformers themselves in a way that works for me. Alien chameleon (or mimic) lifeforms. To this day I get frustrated seeing "Cybertron" mode TFs with cockpits, seats etc.... I know the figures were based on mechs with drivers in the Diaclone and other series, but why extend that to Cybertron mode in the comics/cartoons?

Finally, the soundtracks. I must say playing songs from the TFTM soundtrack in my car always increases my speed to unsafe and un-wallet-friendly levels.... as cheesy as they are. But TFTM just wouldn't be the same without ol' Stan!

Keep 'em coming STL! Keeps our brains turning over!

[STL]

what about Grapple you see him on the battlefield shooting at the Decepticons for a brief moment he's gotta be keeping Blaster company too!!! you dont actually see him die

Well I was coming up w/ a list of Gwunners who didn't officially die nor feature in the movie:

Tracks
Sideswipe
Sunstreaker (tho he appears twice )
Mirage
Hound
Bluestreak
Powerglide
Trailbreaker
Hoist
Grapple
Warpath
Smokescreen
Inferno
Red Alert
Seaspray
Beachcomber
Windcharger
Gears
Cosmos
Skyfire
Omega
Aerialbots
Protectobots
Snarl

A lotta chaps to keep Blaster company. Just annoyed we never got to see them - as periphery as it was.

[Gutsman Heavy]

I'm pretty sure Hound and Snarl appear

[Paulbot]

Nah they left Eject, Rewind, Ramhorn, Steeljaw & Snarl to keep Blaster company.

Snarl went to the Planet of Junk though...

Well I was coming up w/ a list of Gwunners who didn't officially die nor feature in the movie:
Windcharger

He looked pretty dead to me...

I'm pretty sure Hound and Snarl appear

Yup, and both more than once.

But sorry didn't mean to derail the thread with animation discrepencies.

It's just that Blaster has an important talking role, he receives Jazz's SOS from Cybertron and then Moonbase one is gone and he just disappears. The others are just background characters, even the tapes are pretty much non-descript, "Sick em" is no "Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage, Ratbat: eject. Operation: Interference"

[Bartrim]

Well I was coming up w/ a list of Gwunners who didn't officially die nor feature in the movie:


Sunstreaker (tho he appears twice )

Does that mean he'd have to die twice?

[roller]

what about Grapple you see him on the battlefield shooting at the Decepticons for a brief moment he's gotta be keeping Blaster company too!!! you dont actually see him die

That was really Hauler, if you look closely he has 2 hands, Grapple only has 1 hand.

Originally Posted by STL View Post
Well I was coming up w/ a list of Gwunners who didn't officially die nor feature in the movie:


Sunstreaker (tho he appears twice )

That was an elaborate hologram created by Hound for an amusing lunch break gag