I like the carded movie Bumblebee toys - I don't find any of them to be bad. The boxed ones I find to be poor value for money -- better if cheaper. The problem I have with movie Bumblebee isn't so much that they're bad toys; some of them are actually (I quite like the Deluxe Bumblebees from TF1) quite good... it's just that there's too damn many of them! But that doesn't necessarily make them bad toys per se.