Toy Review - Generations FOC Optimus Prime

[Shirokaze]

..... and with that, I don't think I'll be picking him up.

[Decepticon]

Yes, I am annoyed he is on the small side. But I like him as a stand alone figure. I'm even thinking of repurposing him as Orion Pax.

[kup]

Yes, I am annoyed he is on the small side. But I like him as a stand alone figure. I'm even thinking of repurposing him as Orion Pax.

If he had a different head, that is not a bad idea.

[GoktimusPrime]

FoC Optimus Prime comparison pics and comments.

Overall FoC Optimus Prime is disappointing, not only in size but also in design and weight (it's as light as a feather). I think the size can be overlooked somewhat if the design were more satisfying and if it just had more bulk to it. This is like "Optimus Lite", which makes it difficult to justify its Deluxe price point. The colours are quite light, somewhat similar to Optimus Prime's colours in the G1 cartoon. I prefer the darker colours on WfC Optimus Prime. The lighter red actually borderlines a rose-pink.

The transformation to vehicle mode is quite simple - which does make it more fun to play with (WfC Optimus Prime's transformation is far too fiddly for its own good, and I've never been fond of how WfC OP has various little panels that keep flopping around when playing with it in robot mode). The alt mode is a definitive looking truck, as opposed to WfC Optimus Prime's 'ride-on-lawnmower' mode. But having said that, it was a pretty neat looking ride-on-lawnmower, whereas this is a really disappointing looking truck. There are these unsightly gaps and the hands are poorly concealed. I like how the forearms transform to conceal and reveal the front wheels, but I do wish that the arms themselves could fold or tuck into the truck more rather than just hang out the sides. Then there's those hands again... but looking at the forearm design I guess there's nowhere that they can go, and to HasTak's credit they have sculpted the back of the hands to be quite broad so that they do conceal the fingers and thumbs in vehicle mode. Sort of. I don't know what it is about the head sculpt, but I'm not a huge fan of it. When transforming to truck mode, there are several tabs which lock into place to keep the truck mode solid, and I like that. But the same can't be said for robot mode - the most disappointing part being the mid-torso section that swings down and doesn't appear to have any locking mechanism. So expect this part to become easily deformed during play.

The Autobot logos on the shoulders are silver, which looks better than the pink logos on WfC Optimus Prime. The designs of the wheels look quite nice.

The gun reminds me of G1 Ultra Magnus' gun - it has a handle on the top and bottom which are used in the toy's different configurations. When the gun is placed in the robot fists, it bears more resemblance to the original G1 Optimus Prime's gun... a bit, but "tanked out." There's a post on the top for the vehicle mode and also to plug into other holes on the outer forearms and back. Unfortunately, the angle of this top post makes plugging them into those spots look really stupid, so it's best to either just leave it in the fist or put it aside when in robot mode. As I mentioned in the comparison page, the articulation on FoC OP is more limited and just no where near as clever, with parts of it being more incidental rather than intent of design.

I voted "Only if..."; WfC Optimus Prime is a superior toy, so unless you just _want_ to have a Fall of Cybertron Optimus Prime (in which case, let's face it, you've either already got the toy or you're going to buy it regardless of what people say), then run for the hills and find something better to spend your money on. Try to get this toy below RRP and by NO means should you be paying above RRP for it.

[Autocon]

Werent WOF deluxes also shorter than previous deluxes? So they have gone down in size twice.

[theheretic]

So disappointed to see how much smaller FOC figures are. Does this mean voyager Soundwave will be the same as deluxe WFC Soundwave? Probably the same mould and they will charge voyager prices for him.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Not to say anything of his size, but the Voyager Soundwave is definitely a new mould, since he can fit the disc shaped minions they're planning to sell (as legions, i think?).

[Sutton]

The real issue for me isn't the size with other FOC/WFC figures. It's that this means that all TF's from here on in are going to be in this new scale. So if Hasbro gets off their butt and decides to finish the classics line some day, the new figures are going to be massively out of scale with the old ones.

Crap.

[Sutton]

Kmart charges, what, $23 for deluxes? I could have handled $25 or $27 if it meant keeping sizes as they were.

[theheretic]

Not to say anything of his size, but the Voyager Soundwave is definitely a new mould, since he can fit the disc shaped minions they're planning to sell (as legions, i think?).

Doesn't the current Soundwave have a chest that stores his weapons? I'm pretty sure I saw some figures on shapeways that also fit into his chest. Thuggers or something like that.

I'm disappointed because it ruins any chance of displaying WFC with FOC without having weird sizing. And yeah I'm disappointed that any future classics figures are going to be out of size too. And unfortunately for us, the collectors community isn't the target market so we probably won't have a chance of getting Hasbro to change its sizing back.

I'm glad there's a bunch of 3rd party figures and combiners coming or I would really be disheartened. I'm surprised Has/Tak hasn't gone into making figures that collectors want, besides the MP line that is. When people are willing to pay between 50-100 per (roughly) deluxe figure from a 3rd party then they should really look at making a line like this for collectors. Rant rant rant. LOL