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    Quote Originally Posted by Prowl View Post
    I find Ratchet/Ironhide G1 robot modes to be about as bad as it gets. Alt mode gives them a pass though but not by much.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev View Post
    Personally, I always found Blot to be one of the worst designed Gen 1 robots. Which sucks because I still have to buy him at some stage to finish off my Terrorcon collection.

    I mean, what is he anyway? A mutated almalgamation of a mole and a nose?
    Wow, a lot of the Transformers i like are showing up on this list. (Well three).

    Ironhide and Ratchet, I like them coz they suck. The angry stickers theyhave for faces makes them look constipated! GOLD. They'd be better if they hadn't been designed with their bay modes.

    Blot was my second favourite Terrocon, after Rippersnapper. I always thought of him as a monster gorilla. Not guerilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    They do have heads! Just because they don't look like the cartoon heads (which came after the toys) doesn't mean they don't have heads!
    They have faces, not heads!

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    I'd have to say one of my most disliked moulds would have to be the ROTF Ravage.
    the alt mode is worse than scorponoks, at least scorponok has "no step" and other aircraft related decals all over him that imply he is part of the rear panneling of a Helicopter.

    the alt mode for ravage is "scared cat rolled up in a ball" The transformation is fiddly, but simplistic, the plastic has mold lines and flashing all over it, it's thin and cheap feeling and the robot mode while fairly movie accurate has pretty poor articulation for it's time and compared to other movie toys. rubbish.
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    His alt mode is a Re-Entry Mode!
    ...even though Ravage never uses it to re-enter the atmosphere. I mean, he enters the atmosphere when Soundwave shoots him, but after that he doesn't leave an re-enter. I doubt he could even generate enough thrust to break the Earth's gravitational pull!

    Scorponok transforms into a bad robot, but at least it's a robot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMarginal View Post
    I'd have to say one of my most disliked moulds would have to be the ROTF Ravage.
    the alt mode is worse than scorponoks, at least scorponok has "no step" and other aircraft related decals all over him that imply he is part of the rear panneling of a Helicopter.

    the alt mode for ravage is "scared cat rolled up in a ball" The transformation is fiddly, but simplistic, the plastic has mold lines and flashing all over it, it's thin and cheap feeling and the robot mode while fairly movie accurate has pretty poor articulation for it's time and compared to other movie toys. rubbish.
    While his alt-mode is pretty crap, I do actually like the look of ROTF Ravage, for me he was one of the few highlights of the movie and I think he looks pretty wicked sitting on my shelf

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    Maybe Hasbro shouldn't have picked them for Transformers. Maybe these moulds didn't "translate" so well as sentient robots (I disagree). But that doesn't make the moulds inherently bad per se. Just because they're different doesn't make them bad IMHO.
    No maybe about it I am afraid. They translate horrendously when compared to the cartoon. That is not the fault of their design just the fact that they were poor choices by Hasbro.

    I remember when I received Jazz & Ramjet as a kid. They were cool toys. Then there was the poor kid who got Ratchet or Ironhide. Imagine their disappointment at receiving such a sucky toy compared to every other Transformer which was infinitely cooler. The real tragedy is that Ratchet & Ironhide played such major characters in the cartoon with the crappiest of crappy toys allocated to them.



    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    What's wrong with their alt modes? I find them to be pretty good representations of Nissan Onebox Cherry vanettes. Japan has some pretty small vanettes and ambulances (I've been in one) cos they got narrow roads. Here are some photos of real Onebox Cherries:
    http://gazou2.mbsrv.net/car/20110817_2131_2036.jpg
    http://happy.ap.teacup.com/indigo-li...1298202428.jpg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Vanette
    I like their alt modes. That is primarily the reason I display them in alt mode as it is show accurate. Maybe getting those 3rd party heads would fix that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prowl View Post
    No maybe about it I am afraid. They translate horrendously when compared to the cartoon. That is not the fault of their design just the fact that they were poor choices by Hasbro.

    I remember when I received Jazz & Ramjet as a kid. They were cool toys. Then there was the poor kid who got Ratchet or Ironhide. Imagine their disappointment at receiving such a sucky toy compared to every other Transformer which was infinitely cooler.
    Ratchet was the first Autobot car I got and I picked it over Wheeljack cause I liked the fact it had a little medi bay thing, sure the robot was sucky but man the playability of that guy was awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    Ratchet was the first Autobot car I got and I picked it over Wheeljack cause I liked the fact it had a little medi bay thing, sure the robot was sucky but man the playability of that guy was awesome

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    A fair enough point & when you are a kid imagination does go a long long way. I borrowed Ironhide as a child one weekend & did not enjoy playing with him much. My least infulential Transformer, whereas the Prowl mold is the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prowl View Post
    No maybe about it I am afraid. They translate horrendously when compared to the cartoon. That is not the fault of their design just the fact that they were poor choices by Hasbro.
    That's dubious comparison IMO, because the toys came before the cartoon. And the cartoon cheated - a lot. If you look at Classicsverse Ironhide and Ratchet you can see how difficult it is to make toys based on the G1 cartoon models, and that's with modern day engineering! Nonetheless, it's easy for the cartoon models to look better than the toys because:
    a) They came later, so obviously the animators are going to try to make them look cooler.
    b) They can "cheat" by ignoring laws of physics/reality. Where do their mobile battle platforms go? Who cares, they just disappear into sub space, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prowl View Post
    I remember when I received Jazz & Ramjet as a kid. They were cool toys. Then there was the poor kid who got Ratchet or Ironhide. Imagine their disappointment at receiving such a sucky toy compared to every other Transformer which was infinitely cooler. The real tragedy is that Ratchet & Ironhide played such major characters in the cartoon with the crappiest of crappy toys allocated to them.
    I never felt that way about them. In fact, I always used to imagine that their windows in front of their heads were like HUDs that could display all kinds of cool information etc. - so in the middle of battle they saw things similar to how Hot Rod looked at the hole in the Autobot shuttle through his visor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prowl View Post
    Maybe getting those 3rd party heads would fix that?
    I've seen the 3rd party heads IRL and I don't like them. They sit way too far above the shoulders. The only way it'd work would be for the heads to sit over or in front of the existing heads, rather than covering them up and sitting on top of them. Because with the 3rd party heads (and the cardboard heads that come with the Encores are equally guilty of this), the arms look like they're coming out of their lower ribs! Honestly, if you want more show-like toys of G1 Ironhide and Ratchet, get the Universe or Henkei figures.

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    Fun thread!

    I reckon there are heaps of crap TFs out there, but I have never even seen most of them IRL, so I'll limit myself to figures with which I've had firsthand experience.

    I was always terribly disappointed with the Terrorcons, especially Blot. No idea what the alt mode is, and the bot is not much better. None of the Terrorcons had proper arms, just stumpy little things that only appeared to bend at the elbow and didnt reach past their chests.
    So sad. Especially given how much I love Hun-Grrr. Nowadays I have the other 4 only as accessories for my HG.

    And G1 Blurr. Ugly bot. And sorry, but that is not a car.
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