The Universal Counting Method

[liegeprime]

I think they (maccas toys) count.

I can't remember what you said to me regarding - AM microns Gok. you mentioned an amendment in the UCM - do they count? - coz they do transform, they are basically now the new minicons and they are sold separately from larger figures aside from the ones that do come with the figures ( though these seem like targetmaster figures really)... can you clarify please? thanks

[GoktimusPrime]

Ah, I thought that maybe because he came in 1 box as the Collectors Edition G2 Bruticus that maybe he would only be counted as one bot, whereas the FOC Combaticons all came seperately and hence would be counted individually. Thank you for clarification

No worries. 5 Combaticons is 5 Combaticons, regardless of how they're packaged.

What is the take on McDonald's happy meal toys? Do they count? (a mate sent me a Maccas Animated Bumblebee & Ratchet for my birthday)

I think they (maccas toys) count.

I can't remember what you said to me regarding - AM microns Gok. you mentioned an amendment in the UCM - do they count? - coz they do transform, they are basically now the new minicons and they are sold separately from larger figures aside from the ones that do come with the figures ( though these seem like targetmaster figures really)... can you clarify please? thanks

The answer to both your questions lies in Article 08:
Decoys, Statues, busts, PVCs, meal/candy toys, kits etc. do not count. e.g.:
- Super Collection Figures don't count
- Mega Collection Figures don't count
- Mighty Muggs don't count
- Be@rbricks don't count
- Model kit style Arms Microns don't count

So all meal toys (Maccas, Red Rooster etc.) do not count. If Maccas toys interest you, check out the Armada Happy Meal toys... they're the best made meal toys IMHO (especially Hot Shot and Starscream).

The model-kit style Arms Microns don't count because they are model kits, not pre-made action figures like orthodox Mini-Cons. Yes, they transform, but so do some of the other confectionery model kits, like Death Zaras or even Tripledacus who can transform and combine. But those model kits have never counted before, so for the sake of consistency it's been ruled that the model-kit style Arms Microns do not count under the UCM.

[BigTransformerTrev]

So all meal toys (Maccas, Red Rooster etc.) do not count. If Maccas toys interest you, check out the Armada Happy Meal toys... they're the best made meal toys IMHO (especially Hot Shot and Starscream).

I've got 2 Hot Shots that people have given me and I thought they about the worst HM toys, along with Armada Smokescreen. Maybe I'm not transforming them correctly. Personally I liked HM Energon Megatron, he came with a little scout plane with a torch in it!

[GoktimusPrime]

The thing I like about the Armada Happy Meal toys is that they can combine into gestalts (Autobots into a gestalt robot, Decepticons into a gestalt vehicle). Sure, they're pretty silly looking gestalts, but for a bunch of really cheap Happy Meal toys, I'm impressed. Also I like how they all have Mini-Con ports that are compatible with actual Mini-Cons. Sure, they're "dead ports" (i.e. they don't activate any gimmicks in the toys themselves), but again - given that these are just $2 meal toys, I really like how they're designed to be compatible with mainstream Transformer toys! And they all have individual gimmicks too.

So in the case of Hot Shot, he has the pull back motor gimmick, Mini-Con ports that are compatible with Mini-Cons/Microns and he can combine w/ the other Happy Meal Armada Autobots to form a gestalt. That's a LOT more value than ROTF Combiner Class Devastator, and it's only a Happy Meal toy! And I like how Starscream has the G1 Jumpstarter gimmick that actually works better than the G1 Jumpstarters. I've just always been impressed with how much value they crammed into these cheap little toys, and I can't think of any other Meal toy that offers that much bang for your buck.

[liegeprime]

the Armada Maccas toys combine?!? well now that is one thing I didnt know. I only had Armada Maccas Sreamer and I left him back in Phils when I migrated the collection here coz I think it's a crap toy, but for some reason I couldn't throw it away so it's just there in my box of told toys... they combine huh? that's pretty neat for a freebie toy

[GoktimusPrime]

I think it's an incredibly neat thing to do for such cheap and simple Happy Meal toys! Their combined modes aren't flash or anything... but yeah, the fact that they can do it is pretty kewl IMHO. These are a bunch toys that are $2 each (or free if you purchase a Happy Meal) that can transform from individual robots to vehicles and combine. Puts Revenge of the Fallen Combiner Class Devastator to shame!

Anyway, here's a picture of their combined modes:
http://www.x-entertainment.com/artic...9/camazing.jpg
(for Maccas toys that you buy with spare change, I think it's mighty impressive)

[5FDP]

Anyway, here's a picture of their combined modes:
http://www.x-entertainment.com/artic...9/camazing.jpg
(for Maccas toys that you buy with spare change, I think it's mighty impressive)

HA!... it's a totem pole