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    Quote Originally Posted by doublespy View Post
    Interesting. Aside from the presumably "simplified" transformation and the back kibble, this one looks better than the Leader Generations figure.
    There are Leader Class Generations toys?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zommael View Post
    Simplified transformation isn't a problem. It's when the toys themselves are simplified by losing detail such as sculpting and articulation that it's a problem. This does not look like that, thankfully.
    I must admit that this does look better than previous images I've seen... but I'm still remaining wary until I see the toy IRL or at least more in hand photos. Simplification of toys wouldn't be so bad if the price were reduced too, otherwise it just feels like inferior value for money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sutton View Post
    I agree 100%. The ROTF toys were AMAZING, but too bloody hard for a kid to do. Which has led them to going too far the other way and producing their own over-sized legends figures (beating the Chinese KO producers to the punch I suppose!).
    Yeah but KOs are dirt cheap! If they're going to sell this toy for $100 RRP then I'd like it to try and at least give us $100's worth of value. Let's face it, most Leaders don't really give you $100's worth of value (a lot of it is paying for the electronic sound gimmick) - but some come close, like ROTF/DOTM Leader OP and Animated Megatron.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sutton View Post
    When I watch my kids struggle with a transformer, it's not how complicated it is that's the problem, it's how fiddly it is that causes the most grief. If all the panels line up easily, and the instructions are clearly written, then it's no problem.

    I've often sent Hasbro the (rather obvious) suggestion that they post instruction videos on their websites for all their toys.
    *gasp* You're expecting Hasbro to emulate TakaraTOMY's practices?! Next thing they'll be directly surveying us for what we think about their toys and asking us for suggestions!
    Quote Originally Posted by doublespy View Post
    Sadly, for the movie aesthetics, simplified transformation really means losing details or being far from screen accurate, because the concept artists never really think about how or if possible at all their design can be translated into working toys.

    One vehicle panel the artist arbitrarily throws on the robot might make the poor engineers over at TakTom work overtime to get it working for toys. Yet people still complain about "fake chests" and "fake kibble".
    +1. This is why I really do NOT like Transformers toys that are created as screen characters first. But having said that, it's a "necessary evil" with the live action movie franchise because in a photorealistic setting, toy-accurate designs would end up looking like Power Rangers Zords (i.e. people in robot cosplay) which wouldn't be very appealing to audiences. So I can forgive it for the movie franchise... I just don't understand why Hasbro now applies the same formula to non-movie franchises like Animated and Prime. (-_-) Oh how I long for the good ole days of toy-first Transformer designs!

    Having said that, the previous Leader Class Optimus Primes have all been really good toys - so we know that HasTak can engineer good movie-based Leader Class Optimus Prime figures, even if they are complex (although TF1 Leader OP wasn't as complicated as ROTF Optimus Prime, and the retooling done for DOTM Leader OP does make it a lot easier to lock the windscreens into place). And one great thing about previous Leader Optimus Primes is there's minimal faux-kibble; e.g. the windscreen panels on their chests actually becomes the windscreens of the trucks. And TFPRiD Voyager and Commander Optimus Primes demonstrate that HasTak are getting gooderer at reducing faux-kibble in smaller classes too. So I hope that they're able to maintain the same standard (if not better) w/ AoE Leader OP. These toys should be getting better, not worse.

    When TF1 Leader OP first came out, I was incredibly impressed. Easily the best Optimus Prime toy ever made since 1995's Laser Optimus Prime. Then ROTF Leader OP surpassed even that! And as mentioned before, retooling was done to ROTF-Buster OP to make a marginal improvement there. So with each successive Leader Class Optimus Prime toy we've seen steps forward (even if the step between ROTF and DOTM was small, I thought it was still quite significant - for me that relatively minor change made the transformation a lot more easier and fun for me ), not standing still or going backwards. I hope that this standard will continue in AoE, but the photos don't exactly enthuse me. Maybe the actual product will prove me wrong once it's released. Go on Hasbro, please prove me wrong.

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    On this one image I like it as I think it will engage kids much better. I have had heaps of parents complain time in recent years. If these toys increase playability then all power to Hasbro.
    However, the backpack is sucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    There are Leader Class Generations toys?
    I think this is the figure that Doublespy is comparing it to
    http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-...images-178572/

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    In hand photo of this thing..



    from actoys

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    It's this the new packaging style? If it is, it seems that not just the toys are getting cost cutted.

    http://www.seibertron.com/transforme...on-toys/29167/

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    I was just reading that too...

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    Looks a tad like Platinum Ultra Magnus in that packaging...
    Although... SMASH AND CHANGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    It's this the new packaging style? If it is, it seems that not just the toys are getting cost cutted.

    http://www.seibertron.com/transforme...on-toys/29167/
    It seems though that most people in the comments on the other site are missing that the photo and what the guy's talking about, which would be the "gimmick" lines. That is the "Joust Sparkers", "Flp & Smash", "One Step MA", "Power Attac" stuff that probably "converts" but not in any sort of complex way.

    There are still regular, more complex, movie Transformers coming out, and those are being branded "Generations", the existing collectors aimed line (in Deluxe, Voyager and Leader sizes at least). They might not be ROTF level complex, but they won't be Gravity Bots either.

    The packaging we discussed here seems to be the Generations type. Similar and simple, a little bold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perceptor View Post
    Looks a tad like Platinum Ultra Magnus in that packaging...
    Although... SMASH AND CHANGE!
    I know a 5 y.o. nephew that would love that prime

    I don't mind the packaging to be honest.

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    That packaging is pretty good. I like it. The figure is not for me, but I reckon it'll do brilliantly with kids.

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