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[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Amazon Japan still have it up, so I suspect only places selling to the USA care.

If you watch footage of racing from the era they had tobacco advertising it's all blurred out. I want smoking banned but ruining something that documents the past really doesn't sit well with me.

Hrm, I never thought about it like that. It's almost on par with a country taking the nastier bits of war out of their school history books in a way. I can see why it's done, depending on the law, as even though it's old fotage, it could still be seen as advertising, but still.

Funny thing is this is a chance for free advertising.

It is also someone using the design without permission. If it were just free advertising, then Apple. Mcds and every other company wouldn't have an issue with their logo being used wherever. If it were just free advertising, the whole copyright process would be irrelevant.

[Defcon]

Have on preorder through HLJ, if it becomes cancelled I'm not worried since its just a preorder and nothing has been paid. I think it will still happen, maybe some stores are been cautious. If its possible the design will be altered. Just have to wait and see.

[Defcon]

looks like HLJ, Anime Export, AmiAmi, have removed the listing from there stores. When I did a search came up with nothing. Some other places may still have it up, but likely pre-orders are closed anyway. I have recieved no emails about cancellation of my preorder. I guess something official info will surface soon.

[drifand]

Amazon Japan still have it up, so I suspect only places selling to the USA care.


Hrm, I never thought about it like that. It's almost on par with a country taking the nastier bits of war out of their school history books in a way. I can see why it's done, depending on the law, as even though it's old fotage, it could still be seen as advertising, but still.

It is also someone using the design without permission. If it were just free advertising, then Apple. Mcds and every other company wouldn't have an issue with their logo being used wherever. If it were just free advertising, the whole copyright process would be irrelevant.

My dispute is the whole roof design thing is just geometric design, as much as is a trademark , it's too simple and in a way blocking design purpose.

How would you guys like it if simple designs such as a circle, triangle or square being used and you can't use it? Hence why I am not "happy" that being the words Marlboro had not been used.
What I am referring here is malboro had not been seen using this as a design just on its own, (roof top) it's always accompanied with the label and emblem .

Goki pointed out the Apple woollies case and that's where all should be a line drawn. You do not own an apple. You own a bitten Apple logo .

Like wise Maccus is Golden Arches but is unique in a way that is not geometrical blocking, same as coke with a ribbon. A triangle on red white or gold or green is something a child can draw. A triangle with words malboro is definitely violating.

Just went shopping saw a ribbon end design which reassembled malboro as well.
These were used by bankwest and woollies and only thing is words are in placed.
Our eyes chooses what we want to see, IMO exhaust will be still in violation even without the triangle and was painted red and white.

So the report is correct? Some one from tf forums made a complaint directly to pm and caused this issue? Guess he/she may be hated.

[Sinnertwin]

What is it exactly about a possible registered trademark infringement that is just not making sense to you?

[drifand]

What is it exactly about a possible registered trademark infringement that is just not making sense to you?

Possible not definite . Is a ribbon red and white car, a 10 year old kid will not see it as malboro .

I don't think you get it. You can patent anything but don't expect simple shapes and common designs are not used. A triangle on a bonnet is bound to be centralised.

Guess tt should have stick to the shadow rumours release?

[Troubled Autobot]

Just pre-ordered mine though RK - not enjoying the drop in the Aus $$ atm....ouch...

[Sinnertwin]

oh, i get the concept, i doubt you actually do.
if you did then you'd understand that companies pay big bucks to protect their brand/s which includes, but not limited to names, shapes, colours, fonts and any other associated media.
But feel free to hammer your point home endlessly, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

[drifand]

oh, i get the concept, i doubt you actually do.
if you did then you'd understand that companies pay big bucks to protect their brand/s which includes, but not limited to names, shapes, colours, fonts and any other associated media.
But feel free to hammer your point home endlessly, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I do, I just don't agree there is a definitely breeched of a simple design.

No need to hammer as no official news from takara that this is scraped.

But it just says one thing, last time a shadow and diaclone rumours for bluestreak I was told to wait for the actual pics before ordering. Now we have actual pics and is still and issue. Fact is malboro would still be making noise as long as the car was red and white whether it was going to be a direct violation was in relevant . We choose to view it as a malboro car and that's the problem.

Btw this issue was made by a transformers forum member. If anything it isn't malboro at fault.

[Defcon]

The the red and the white, the triangle shape referred to as the 'Rooftop' design . All features of the Marlboro trademark logo on the products. It is the logo! the crest and the marlboro name are not present, but no mistake it is still the logo. Takara would have to change the shape, remove the triangle, and it should be ok.