Diecast metal

[loophole]

Because of the following:
1. The metal give a deeper shine to the toy which equals higher grade of quality

I am sorry but this is just plan wrong. I am a spray painter by trade and the material that we paint on does not make any difference to the quality of shine it is the quality of paint that counts. A lot of the high end cars like Audis and BMWs actually have plastic front guards, sometimes bonnets next to other metal panels and overall there is no difference to the shine of the paint from one panel to another. The substrate that paint is applied to has no bearing to the outcome of the "paint quality".

[drifand]

I am sorry but this is just plan wrong. I am a spray painter by trade and the material that we paint on does not make any difference to the quality of shine it is the quality of paint that counts. A lot of the high end cars like Audis and BMWs actually have plastic front guards, sometimes bonnets next to other metal panels and overall there is no difference to the shine of the paint from one panel to another. The substrate that paint is applied to has no bearing to the outcome of the "paint quality".

you are right, the paint doesn't make a difference.
I just dont see it on our mp line too often. my bad.

Overall though, I don't think transformers were meant to be diecast which was why I was never overly interested in them. Did I mentioned too much BT in this thread? I probably did.

I guess the general feel of a diecast toy imo feels premium but hey whatever. Its not happening. Be happy with what they provide or don't buy it. /thread

[BigTransformerTrev]

Personally I'd prefer to see more Transformers made out of ceramic, or perhaps terracotta

[drifand]

Personally I'd prefer to see more Transformers made out of ceramic, or perhaps terracotta

Wouldn't that break easily?

I have seen titanium and it doesnt do that great either. Wrong type of metal is also a bad thing.

[Trent]

Wouldn't that break easily?

I have seen titanium and it doesnt do that great either. Wrong type of metal is also a bad thing.

He forgot to use the sarcasm font

[drifand]

Well wrong plastic can get brittle and break as well.

[BigTransformerTrev]

He forgot to use the sarcasm font

Which one is the sarcasm font? And can you tell me which one is the 'taking-the-piss' font because I'll use that one a lot

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Remind me again what sort of licenced vehicle MP Rodimus is?

YOu mean you don't know about the flame painted Space Winnebago?

2. The rubber tyres debate is because toy car collectors DO NOT collect toy cars with plastic wheels (in their premium range, not referring to matchbox cars here) is a slap to them, hence the follow suit here in a Masterpiece line, not for other transformers though.

I dont mind plastic wheels, the wheel colour on Wheeljack makes it look more cartoony than rubber would. Plus those of us with RID Optimus Prime's rubber wheels all know how badly they can go (-_-)

[Cleon]

Having Diecast or not doesn't really bother me, but a few observations:

If done on the right toy that's well designed it can be excellent (I'm thinking MP-01, or 04 which is the one I have). The thing has a nice weight to it and it stands up without any issues (Mine has never toppled over, and everything is still tight to this day).

I think the diecast giving the quite substantial figure some weight is really nice (I'm a fan of watches as well, and a lot of people prefer stainless steel over other materials, like titanium, in part because of the weight it gives the watch. Not that I can afford an expensive watch myself..)

My Alternity Prime on the other hand I greatly dislike the diecast. He's way too top heavy, and if I recall correctly, the thing that's holding him up is a plastic heel (that may have been something I did upon recommendations from others, because he kept toppling over).

Having said that though, I wouldn't pay a premium for Diecast (I'm lucky I got my MP-04 prime for about as much as I'm going to pay for the re-issue of MP-10), which is probably why I got alternators instead of binaltech.

[Magnus]

I thought the idea behind the Masterpieces was that they represented the best engineering possible for a given figure. Since this means that they often have very intricate, involved transformations, I don't think this lends them to diecast construction, because of the stresses on the joints as a result of the extra weight. Of course, the quality of the plastic is also important; I would have bought MP-3 Starscream (I didn't mind the colour) were it not for the reports of fragile plastic.