SPOILER THREAD: SW: The Force Awakens

[Trent]

I really don't know if Vader's much better though. When Ren has a tantrum, he damages property. When Vader gets mad, he kills his own officers! When Ren gets mad, they send in a repair crew. When Vader gets angry, they send in the coroner.

One of my favourite abilities in the Star Wars Miniatures game is this Commander Effect from Darth Vader, Dark Jedi:
Whenever an allied character without a Force rating gets a natural 1 on any roll, that character is defeated and all other allies without a Force rating get a +2 Attack. (These bonuses stack)
So what this means is that if any non Force-user on Vader's team rolls a 1 on a 20 sided die roll (which means a critical failure), Vader kills that character, which then scares the Poodoo out of the rest of the team who all fight harder (hence the +2 to Attack) because they don't want to be next! And if another character rolls a 1, they also get killed and everyone else gets another +2 to Attack (hence it becomes a +4, +6, +8 etc.). Every time I played a squad with Darth Vader, Dark Jedi in it and I'd roll a 1, I would put on my Vader voice and say, "You have failed me for the last time," and make choking noises as I removed that defeated piece off the map!

Vader seemed able to draw strength from his rage, whereas it might be more of a liability for Ren. But this may further serve to demonstrate that Ren's (attempted) conversion to the Dark Side hasn't been nearly as comprehensive as Vader's. He's arguably more of a wannabe Sith.

My impression is that Vader didn't kill his officers in a fit of rage though. It was more as though he just had zero tolerance for failure (quite amusing considering he fails at everything task attempts in the OT) . I suppose I t could also be interpreted as just cold, controlled rage, as opposed to the hissy fits we see Kylo throw.

[Krayt]

Simon Pegg was the scrap dealer on Jakku....

Meanwhile, according to the book (finally finished it) ratio didn't exactly have the rest of the map left by Luke.

The visual dictionary says "most don't know this, but R2 has been storing all info from every system he hacks"

Also "R2 still has not had a memory wipe"

So in the book, after the return to the base, Rey says that the FO has the rest of the map, pulled from the Empires archives. At this R2 wakes up, coz he has the archives as well, and 3PO says R2 is scanning what he has. Then he projects the rest of the map, minus the chunk

[Sinnertwin]

Vader had that "oh, crap" factor to him, which I found cool, especially in Empire.

But you're right. He didn't do much in ANH, apart from victory by default & in ROTJ he's just meh, I'll lay down here and let Luke cut my hand off.

[Lord_Zed]

My impression is that Vader didn't kill his officers in a fit of rage though. It was more as though he just had zero tolerance for failure (quite amusing considering he fails at everything task attempts in the OT) . I suppose I t could also be interpreted as just cold, controlled rage, as opposed to the hissy fits we see Kylo throw.

I agree that's just Darth Vaders way of motivating his men.

[GoktimusPrime]

My impression is that Vader didn't kill his officers in a fit of rage though. It was more as though he just had zero tolerance for failure (quite amusing considering he fails at everything task attempts in the OT) . I suppose I t could also be interpreted as just cold, controlled rage, as opposed to the hissy fits we see Kylo throw.

I agree that's just Darth Vaders way of motivating his men.

Good points.

And to be fair, Vader is pretty darn generous with dishing out promotions too. Team motivator right there.

[ILikeSoundwave]

On my way to see it again, only this time it's in Imax.

[drifand]

I felt Ren after removing the mask doesn't look fearsome. It in fact weakens him when confronting Rey.

Snok looks like some Lord Voldemort and wont be surprised if we bring in Lego expanded universe there. Harry potter comes in lol

I am sure Luke could have taken Ren out, but because he is Han's and Leia's son, he didn't. Whatever Rey relation is, she has less compassion and was willing to take K Ren out after what he did to Han which I bet Luke couldn't do.

[GoktimusPrime]

I made this photocomic parodying the financial and practical issues with Starkiller Base. Enjoy.

[gamblor916]

With the destruction of Starkiller base I was thinking that's an entire planetary ecosystem with countless flora and fauna gone. Also it was so conveniently close and orientated to enemy systems.

[Paulbot]

With the destruction of Starkiller base I was thinking that's an entire planetary ecosystem with countless flora and fauna gone. Also it was so conveniently close and orientated to enemy systems.

Starkiller base presumably had a hyperdrive like the Death Star right, so it could jump around the galaxy? Otherwise once you've sucked out the sun how would you ever recharge it?