SPOILER THREAD: SW: The Force Awakens

[Deonasis]

I saw it a few weeks ago but haven't been near a keyboard to type so here are my thoughts for a long time ago..

- I hope that Rey is no relation of Luke's or any other established family. Keeping it all in the family is what the The Bold and Beautiful is for. I hope there is no ultra super special family in SW.

- I doubt a bigger-er Star weapon would suit any more movies so I wouldn't mind the Sith go to hunt down Rey's family in the next movie - it is a proven way to disrupt a young Jedi's training. Just like the Star-gun was a new take on an old formula I think a "chase for Rey's family" movie could be a new take on another familiar SW event.

- The defection of Finn was strange. Could the ex-stormtrooper split out hero group if the Rebels start to suspect the Empire has (by a series of strange events) actually planted him? I mean his behaviour was so different from other Stormtroopers that I am surprised that such malfunction was not noticed before this seemingly sudden and extreme battlefield meltdown.

- The safe return of Poe was strange. This is an area where I think the Sith may have pulled strings. Finn could make a great red-stormtrooper-herring whilst it is Poe that is being used. Now I know that Poe pretty much destroyed the Planet-gun but for the Sith to find the last Jedi? I think they would be so ruthless.

- At the time I thought Ren was punching his side to inflate/deflate a punctured lung which would've showcased how darn hard it is to kill a force user AND leave him in a much weakened state for the beginners to battle him. Looking back now I think he was just getting amped off the pain, shame.

- I don't know the back story but Phasma should survive (like they nearly all do) and kick arse in the next movie.

- BB8 worked better than expected.

- Loved Ren's tantrums. It was the best way to showcase his emotional state and immature Sith training.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

SAw a few days ago and my thoughts will follow.

Nice visuals, Han Solo and Chewie were cool, but the rest was fairly ho-hum. This was the original Star Wars movie with a "search for....." thrown in for good measure. I've already seen the story of the death star. Twice. It seems ludicrous to think anyone would think that type of weapon is good idea... surely.

The names were stupid. Snoke or whatever doesn't sound intimidating, but then neither did Count Dooku. It's fairly unlikely that Snoke is a fully trained Sith lord isn't it? What with the eliteness of the Jedi and sith bizzo.

Had a hard time liking the characters as well. Finn came off as incompeteant. Rey, kind of unlikeable. Ren was the most interesting for me, as you can tell the commander of the star killer base thing thought he was weak and shouldn't be in the position he's in. I did think Ren was way too emo and when he took off his mask, any threat level he had disappeared. I really hope he is developed more than just becoming a serious bad-ass sith lord.

I think most of all, I found it disappointing as the movie felt more like a re-hash than anything else. Surely with a decent director on board we'd be getting something good. Oh no. Lets just go for the original again.
Needs more Mark Hamil. Oh and that last scene, waaaay tooooo looooong!

2.5 out of 5.

Wasn't bad, wasn't good either. A perfectly safe movie.

[ChlorHex]

^I agree with what you'd highlighted.

Just caught the movie a couple of days ago... It was entertaining but not the best.

Finn was way too tubby IMO to be believable as a trained Storm Trooper.

Ren could've kept his mask on for a lot longer as once that was off, seeing that emo teen just didn't cut it for me as a Sith Lord (or one to be) and kinda ruined the rest of the film.

Captain Phasma being female kinda surprised me quite a bit... would've preferred a suit more flattering for her or if at least they took off her mask for a second so it kinda registered better in me head

R2 suddenly waking up and sharing the other parts of the map... Too easy a gap filler in the plot.

Rey hugging Leia at the end... They haven't even met before

Entertaining movie and fun to watch nonetheless

[Sinnertwin]

This one killed me

[ChlorHex]

This one killed me

Lol

[The_Damned]

i dont know if this has been discussed but regarding the disney infinity game?

"the final boss fight against Kylo Ren, the villain addresses Rey, saying either "Face me, cousin!" or "Face me!" and then "Curses!" as he's hit by an attack"

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/disney-infi...wakens-1534831

[Paulbot]

It was debunked almost the same day by the guy hat first mentioned it on his youtube channel.

http://kotaku.com/no-disney-infinity...e-v-1749629781

[Trent]

Captain Phasma being female kinda surprised me quite a bit... would've preferred a suit more flattering for her or if at least they took off her mask for a second so it kinda registered better in me head

Not sure if sarcasm or not...

[GoktimusPrime]

- I hope that Rey is no relation of Luke's or any other established family.

^Agree 100%!

Keeping it all in the family is what the The Bold and Beautiful is for.

And monarchies.

I've already seen the story of the death star. Twice. It seems ludicrous to think anyone would think that type of weapon is good idea... surely.

http://otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=22119

The names were stupid. Snoke or whatever doesn't sound intimidating, but then neither did Count Dooku.

Neither does Ren. I keep on expecting Stimpy to show up and turn Ren back to the Light Side with his Happy Happy Joy Joy song.

Captain Phasma being female kinda surprised me quite a bit... would've preferred a suit more flattering for her or if at least they took off her mask for a second so it kinda registered better in me head

It's armour. It's not supposed to be flattering. Armour worn by women IRL have never been designed to accentuate their feminine features.
Historical examples
Joan of Arc
Nakano Takeko
Queen Boudicca
Gozen Tomoe
Modern-day examples
Female Australian soldiers
Australian female submariner
Female U.S. Marines
Female Italian soldier
Female U.S. Army Rangers
Female pilots from the Japanese Air Self Defence Force
Female South Korean soldiers
Kurdish female fighters (they are on the front line fighting against Islamic State)
As you can see in each of these historical and modern day examples, women are pretty much dressed the same as men in battle. Soldiers may have gender-specific dress uniform, but this is what soldiers wear when they're not on active combat duty. It's a form of military business attire, and is also worn at public and formal occasions.

As for removing her helmet, the film makes it clear that Stormtroopers are not allowed to remove their helmets while on active duty. With the sole exception of FN-2187, have you ever seen an Imperial or First Order Stormtrooper take his/her helmet off? Prior to this, the only time we've seen someone in Stormtrooper armour without a helmet was in Episode IV when Luke and Han were pretending to be Stormies. But of course, they don't count. For all we know, Imperial and First Order Stormtroopers may have many more females and non-Caucasian looking humans (or near-human aliens) among them. We don't know since we've never seen one without a helmet before. FN-2187 is the first. Poor ol' TK-421 might've been a female Bajoran for all we know. Even the Star Wars Wikia page avoids using any gender-specific pronouns.

She speaks with a female voice, which tells the audience that she's female. Other Stormtroopers speak with a male voice which tells the audience that their male. Do these male Stormtroopers need more masculine looking armour and be seen walking around without their helmets to remind you that they're blokes? If not, then why should Phasma?

When Star Wars Episode II came out, some people were surprised to see Jango and Boba Fett being portrayed by Maori actors. But why not? We never see Boba without his helmet in the Original Trilogy. And some fans got upset when they saw that FN-2187 was a black Stormtrooper, but again, the entire Clone Army were of Pacific Island appearance. I think part of the idea of insisting that the Stormtroopers don't remove their helmets in the presence of anyone else is to help visually suppress any diversity.

[ChlorHex]

Gok, chill out man... You're getting worked up for nothing
I've been in the army in my youth and I've had female colleagues there who've donned whatever gear the blokes do.
Thing is, this is a fictional universe we're taking about...
Didn't need all the effort you went through to give so many examples from the real world. Lol.
I get what you're saying dude... chill