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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    I've got an imitation firearms license because I was told by customs to get one, even though I live in Qld, before ordering G1 and MP Megs. But I've also read this:
    https://www.police.qld.gov.au/progra...s/replicas.htm

    "For Category A, B, C and H non-firing replica weapons no weapons licence is required."
    Any other Qlders want to clarify?
    Downloaded the form, just waiting for PC. Will fill it after get confirm news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Downloaded the form, just waiting for PC. Will fill it after get confirm news.
    Yeah, could be very useful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Downloaded the form, just waiting for PC. Will fill it after get confirm news.

    As a Queenslander this is pretty much my plan A.

    If PC doesn't get the legals sorted out plan B is import it myself. I have never imported myself so that is a whole new world of hurt on top of the firearms side.

    If anyone has any prefered sellers and pointers it would be helpful.

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    Other than PC my preferred sellers are HLJ and Amazon Japan, although Amazon JP usually only ships Transformers domestically

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellico View Post
    Just NSW (as mentioned on the Club homepage) or the whole country?
    The Megatron Club was set up to satisfy NSW ownership laws, but might be useful in other Permit states if that satisfies their requirements of proving that you are an existing toy collector.

    Quote Originally Posted by spiderken17 View Post
    Do you need a replica gun license if you have a real gun license ( i would hope not)?
    If you have a real gun license, you are already covered for replica ones... unless it is in a different weapons class and you are only licensed for Rifles.
    But email the Weapons Branch in your state to verify.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    AAs a Queenslander, hope PC can get it. And also hope someone can do some examples for the form B709 about mp36. Then can help us to fill and the permit if necessarily.
    There is not much to fill out on the form, other than ticking the B709A box, describing the the toy completely (what it replicates and what it is called as a Transformers toy), and that you are a toy collector of a certain amount of years or toys. That's it.
    I will have to post up an edited copy of my form... to show what is required on the form.

    Quote Originally Posted by spiderken17 View Post
    Is all this a non-issue if it has an orange plug in the barrel?
    Nup, that doesn't apply to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    I've got an imitation firearms license because I was told by customs to get one, even though I live in Qld, before ordering G1 and MP Megs. But I've also read this:
    https://www.police.qld.gov.au/progra...s/replicas.htm

    "For Category A, B, C and H non-firing replica weapons no weapons licence is required."
    Any other Qlders want to clarify?
    You don't need a license, but you do need a permit to import if you are buying from another country. If you are buying from an Australian person or business, you don't need any licenses or permits for toy guns in Queensland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    There is not much to fill out on the form, other than ticking the B709A box, describing the the toy completely (what it replicatesand what it is called as a Transformers toy), and that you are a toy collector of a certain amount of years or toys. That's it.
    Um guys.... I think something needs pointing out.

    Mp-36 is NOT a replica firearm.

    Mp-05 was an oversize replica of a Walther P-38. This is a fictional gun with no real world equivelent.

    This is also supported by the "translated" magazine pages that went up the other day.

    I've run this past my firearms officer contact (for my actual license) and other contacts (consulted for Victorian gunlaws) and all agree that this totally exclude MP-36 from the replica conditions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krayt View Post
    Um guys.... I think something needs pointing out.

    Mp-36 is NOT a replica firearm.

    Mp-05 was an oversize replica of a Walther P-38. This is a fictional gun with no real world equivelent.

    This is also supported by the "translated" magazine pages that went up the other day.

    I've run this past my firearms officer contact (for my actual license) and other contacts (consulted for Victorian gunlaws) and all agree that this totally exclude MP-36 from the replica conditions.
    This might be the case in VIC but I am not so confident about NSW. In NSW it is not a replica firearm but an imitation firearm. Quoting the relevant Act:

    (2) For the purposes of the application (as provided by this section) of this Act to imitation firearms:
    (a) an imitation firearm that is an imitation of a pistol is taken to be a pistol, and
    (b) an imitation firearm that is an imitation of a prohibited firearm is taken to be a prohibited firearm.
    (3) In this section, imitation firearm means an object that, regardless of its colour, weight or composition or the presence or absence of any moveable parts, substantially duplicates in appearance a firearm but that is not a firearm.

    It will be interesting to see how this is ultimately classified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    This might be the case in VIC but I am not so confident about NSW. In NSW it is not a replica firearm but an imitation firearm. Quoting the relevant Act:

    (2) For the purposes of the application (as provided by this section) of this Act to imitation firearms:
    (a) an imitation firearm that is an imitation of a pistol is taken to be a pistol, and
    (b) an imitation firearm that is an imitation of a prohibited firearm is taken to be a prohibited firearm.
    (3) In this section, imitation firearm means an object that, regardless of its colour, weight or composition or the presence or absence of any moveable parts, substantially duplicates in appearance a firearm but that is not a firearm.

    It will be interesting to see how this is ultimately classified.
    yeah NSW would be diff as even props etc that resembled a firearms falls into the imitation category per point 3 above

    even tho mp36 is not an exact replica of a real world pistol, at first glance by anyone they would say hey its a gun/pistol which pretty much guarantees its imitation status

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    Speaking for WA, I'm still going to check with Police Firearms, given oversize MP5 still needed a permit.

    All the pleading that MP36 is a fictional gun will mean nothing if customs/police think otherwise. And really he is pretty much a P38.

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