What colours are Frenzy and Rumble (FIRRIB?)

[GoktimusPrime]

[Sinnertwin]

*schnip*

[Bidoofdude]

Well it depends on the media. Though the G1 Frenzy toy is blue, there is no denying that he is red in the English cartoon. It honestly doesn't matter, and most media that draw inspiration from either the cartoon or comic or toyline should reflect the one they draw on the most.

For example, if a new animated movie was based mostly off the aesthetics and everything of the G1 cartoon, then Rumble should be blue and Frenzy red. If the relation is relatively loose and the designs/concepts of the new media have little to do with a particular incarnation of old, then you'd probably make Rumble red for sake of consistency.

[FatalityPitt]

... It honestly doesn't matter...

Actually, this phrase here is the most correct, and it's helped me reach an epiphany - It doesn't matter.

Even though the package might say 'Frenzy' or 'Rumble', the toy's name should be at the discretion of that toy's owner. If a person buys a blue transformer that turns into a cassette, he/she doesn't have to call it 'Frenzy' or 'Rumble' if they don't want to. He/she can call it 'George' or 'Adam'. Why? Because it's just a toy. It's made to entertain the person who bought it, and if that person likes to call it 'George', then... cool!

[Autocon]

Blue is Alfie
Red os Nash

[Dan]

Frenzy is blue in the 1986 movie? What!

I just assume they were identical to who they are in the cartoon. Who first cracks the shell, then cracks the nuts inside?

[GoktimusPrime]

Frenzy is blue in the 1986 movie? What!

You need to read the text not just look at the pics. Rumble is blue (well, purple) in the Sunbow cartoon, but in the Toei anime (i.e. the Japanese dub of the G1 cartoon plus original Japanese series) never had that error. The purple/blue cassette robot was always called Frenzy in Japan, and the black/red robot was Rumble.

In the 20th Century the US G1 cartoon was the only Transformers medium that got Frenzy and Rumble's colours wrong. Every other media had it the right way around. So as far as the original G1 continuity is concerned, FIRRIB is only true for the Anglophone cartoon and nothing else. In the 21st Century we've had a small number of media emulate the Anglophone cartoon with FIRRIB, but as you can see the majority still stick with the original RIRFIB (which is technically more G1 accurate since the toys came first).

[BigTransformerTrev]

Hang on. The Hasbro MP I have has Rumble as blue (purple/mauve/whatever) and Frenzy as red. Or do you only count the TT MPs?

[GoktimusPrime]

Hang on. The Hasbro MP I have has Rumble as blue (purple/mauve/whatever) and Frenzy as red. Or do you only count the TT MPs?

Hasbro MP Rumble = red
Hasbro MP Frenzy = blue

[BigTransformerTrev]

Hasbro MP Rumble = red
Hasbro MP Frenzy = blue

Huh. Well I have no idea where my MP Box is so I’m gonna assume that’s correct and for some reason I’m remembering it completely wrong.

I’m actually kinda glad I’m wrong on this one as that had always irritated me