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Thread: Toy Review - Earthrise Cliffjumper

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    The size doesn't bug me, Studio Series Jazz is fantastic at a reduced size.

    But the 'shield' cop out really does. It's weak design work, the same as it is on Arcee. I could forgive it if transformed further to actually become a shield but in both cases it's an obvious piece of cars. Holding on to an old TV doesn't make it a shield, and standing on a sideways fridge doesn't make it a hoverboard. Not sure why these guys are getting passes on this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutton View Post
    But the 'shield' cop out really does. It's weak design work, the same as it is on Arcee. I could forgive it if transformed further to actually become a shield but in both cases it's an obvious piece of cars.
    I see it as something similar to a high transparency riot shield, which in real life can even be used in military-like formations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sutton View Post
    Holding on to an old TV doesn't make it a shield,
    LOL. That just made Cliffjumper's shield even better for me. Now he can distract opponents or entertain restless civilians with video clips!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutton View Post
    The size doesn't bug me, Studio Series Jazz is fantastic at a reduced size.

    But the 'shield' cop out really does. It's weak design work, the same as it is on Arcee. I could forgive it if transformed further to actually become a shield but in both cases it's an obvious piece of cars. Holding on to an old TV doesn't make it a shield, and standing on a sideways fridge doesn't make it a hoverboard. Not sure why these guys are getting passes on this point.
    People will justify having paid $10-$15 more for a $19 figure any which way they can.
    If you look at it objectively, it fails in both design and price/size class.

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    Cliffjumper is trying to achieve something that no other Cliffjumper toy★ has ever done before.
    * a realistically proportioned vehicle mode, not the deformed squat car mode of the G1 toy
    * a squat looking robot mode
    * not be a repaint/retool of an existing Bumblebee mould
    So you have the paradox of having an elongated sports car transform into a stout humanoid robot form. If this were a more expensive toy such as a Masterpiece, then sure, it could be done. But given that it has been allocated the maximum budget of a Deluxe Class figure, I think that they've done a pretty impressive job. Okay, the shield thing is a cheat, but to incorporate that back kibble would most probably have exceeded the budget.

    Now having said all that, does the base figure really justify the Deluxe price point? On its own, no. But it's beyond the Legends price point too - this is way above any Legends Class toy. Now you could create a whole new price point that's between Legends and Deluxe, but Hasbro's decided not to do that, so they've used up the rest of the budget on the bazooka which is basically an accessory pack. When we combine the whole package, then yeah, we can see why it's a Deluxe figure. Would this toy be cheaper if it didn't come with the bazooka? Sure. But a lot of MPs would be heaps cheaper if they didn't come with their accessories too, just look at Hasbro's MP Rodimus Prime vs TakaraTOMY's MP-9 etc. And Earthrise Optimus Prime would easily be $50 if they didn't include the trailer (and I'm not convinced that the trailer is necessarily worth another $50).

    Okay, so a Legends Class figure has a max RRP of $20 and a Deluxe has a max RRP of $35 (and I saw Deluxe Earthrise toys at Myer at this price today). So if we are to agree that Cliffjumper is better than a Legends but not as good as a Deluxe, then the appropriate price to pay would lie midway between $20 to $35, yes? Mathematically speaking, this would be $27.50. I paid $29 for mine at Kmart, so I'm perfectly happy with that. I also got Ironworks from Myer and got them to price match Kmart, so also paid $29 for him. So yeah, just get these toys from Kmart, or if you find them at a dearer price elsewhere, get them to price match. Problem solved, keep calm and play on.

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    ★obviously not including non-G1 based Cliffjumpers like Armada, Energon etc.

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    P.S.: I think that Cliffjumper better justifies his price point than say Siege Shockwave or Astrotrain. Both Shockwave and Astrotrain's alt mode attachments are completely superfluous - you could put them aside and it makes no real difference to the core toy. Cliffjumper's shield is at least meaningful to the toy and is still functional in robot mode. It also serves a purpose in covering up what would be a huge gap in the alt mode; Astrotrain's shuttle mode has this ridiculous gap which the accessory utterly fails to conceal, and that's a Leader Class toy! There is no way to cover up Astrotrain's shuttle gap. At least Cliffjumper has a solution.

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    Well said Gok. This may not quite be a $35 toy but it's certainly not a $19 toy either.
    Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.

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    It's still a $19 toy masquerading as a Deluxe no matter how you try and justify it. But you like it, that's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnertwin View Post
    It's still a $19 toy masquerading as a Deluxe no matter how you try and justify it.
    L-R: (using today's max RRPs)
    Deluxe Classics Cliffjumper = $35
    Deluxe Earthrise Cliffjumper = $35
    Legends Titans Return* Bumblebee = $20

    So you're saying that ER Cliffjumper should be sold for less than Legends Class Bumblebee? If that's what you think then that's fine, but I respectfully disagree. Cliffjumper may not be worth maximum RRP at $35, but at a discounted price like $29 I think he's fine. I suppose if you want to buy one for $19 just wait a few months and grab a loose one off the used toys market.

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    *Yes, I know it's the TakaraTOMY LG Bumble which was more expensive than TR Bumblebee as it came with the Titan Master yada yada, but you get the idea.

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    So yes he's small, but I this this figure is great-transformation is fun, car looks great and in robot mode he shines!!
    Also the asscorry possibilities are a great touch! Because I bought Hoist and him at the same time I see they spread the 'volume' of materials across the wave so I'm less angry about the price.
    My only gripe is that the 5mm post on the backpack/kibble piece is super hard to flip out after you've flipped it in for Vehicle mode... needed to wedge something in there to flip it back out again :S

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