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Think the 87 Headmasters and Targetmasters are well done, just give us Sureshot!
But new toys of Nightbeat, GoShooter, Siren, Hosehead, Squeezeplay, and Horribull would be welcome
And all of the Powermasters, including Prime/Ginrai (Would like to see Commander size)and Dreadwind and Darkwing (would like to see as voyagers)
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Oh yes, I'd love a Powermaster Prime done on a commander budget!Originally Posted by Paulbot
Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.
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When Fiction Becomes Fact
Back in 1984, issue 1 of the Transformers Marvel comics described Cybertron as a rogue planet. i.e. a planet that was ejected from its mother star and wanders through the galaxy; specifically the Alpha Centauri galaxy. Issue 1 also states that it was the Cybertronian wars that caused Cybertron to be ejected. Cybertron was on collision course with an asteroid belt, and so the Autobots launched the Ark to clear a path for Cybertron. Now of course, while some science fiction like Transformers and Star Wars like to portray asteroid fields as being tightly bunched, in reality asteroids are gigametres apart from each other. There is a certain possibility of being on collision course with one deadly asteroid that could cause a mass-extinction event, but not heaps.
But in 1984 having tightly bunched asteroids wasn't the only scifi fantasy element, so was the idea of a rogue planet. Because back then, we didn't know that rogue planets existed. The first potential rogue planet was sighted in 1998, although astronomers aren't certain if it's a planet or a brown dwarf. Continual improvements in gravitational microlensing has allowed astronomers to confirm the existence of exoplanets in the 21st century, with the first confirmed sighting of a rogue planet in 2012. And in December 2021, up to 170 rogue planets are discovered. Astronomers have now discovered more rogue planets than fixed-orbital planets. This means that wandering worlds like Cybertron are actually in the majority, while planets that orbit a star like Earth are in the minority!
Cybertron in other media
Most other Transformers media don't seem to have definitively stated if Cybertron is a rogue or fixed-orbital planet. Sure, we can see day and night on Cybertron, but that could simply be Cybertron passing by a star much like a comet does; not necessarily fixed in an orbit around it. In the Sunbow cartoon, Galvatron once constructed a planetary engine ([i]The Rebirth[i]) so that he could control Cybertron's movement. This means that Galvatron was either willing to use this engine to eject Cybertron from its mother star, or Cybertron was already a wandering planet and that Galvatron simply wanted to be able to pilot the planet. Beast Machines, the one Transformers series that's entirely set on Cybertron, does show cycles of day and night, which does heavily imply that Cybertron is in a fixed-orbit around a star; so I would say that at least in the Beast Wars/Machines cartoon continuity, Cybertron is a fixed-orbital world. Mind you, in the Beast Era cartoon...
1 deca-cycle = 30 days
1 mega-cycle = 1 hour = 100,000 deca-cycles
1 day = 20 hours = 20 mega-cycles = 2,000,000 deca-cycles
...I don't get it either.
Or maybe Cybertron doesn't have a fixed stellar orbit in Beast Wars/Machines and time is measured by some other means beyond relative positions of stars and moons (and perhaps every day and night we see is just Cybertron hurtling past different stars and some ridiculous speed, because even at the speed of light it takes years to pass from one star to the next).
Yes, I'm overthinking this.
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Thanks to Ultimate Doom, aren't we saying it's floating around our star?
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Considering that they continued to use the Space Bridge to get to Cybertron and back, not to mention the massive long haul flight that nearly killed Omega Supreme etc., I'd say that Cybertron was hurtled out of the Solar System.
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Presumably if we're going by the Western G1 cartoon, then it'd be where it ended up after The Rebirth 3-parter that'd determine its 'current' location.
The movie occurred in the far-flung future of 2005, and the series didn't seem to take 18-odd years after that for the Rebirth arc to happen, not unless the Witwicky family age really slowly. Like, Daniel would be ~30 years old, Spike would be 53, and Carly would presumably be somewhere around 60 at mimimum given she was an MIT graduate when she first met Spike who was ~14-16 years old at the time.
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IIRC according to the production bible, the "Witwicky boy" (Buster, Butch or Spike, depending on initial* continuity) was meant to be 17 years old in 1984. This means that he was 38 in 2005, and I think Daniel was supposed to be 10. The Rebirth takes place in 2007, so Spike would be 40 and Daniel would be 12.
"A Plague of Insecticons" was set in 1984, but "Dinobot Island" was set in 1985. Carly's debut episode was set in between these two episodes, so I'm not sure if it was meant to take place in 1984 or 1985; so, don't know when her exact birthday is, so Carly may be the same age as Spike or maybe a year older. Although it's not unusual for someone to still be 17 in their first semester at uni, or she may have even been accelerated with early admission or something, I dunno... either way, she's roughly the same age as Spike.
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*I know that Spike was later retconned as the Buster's older brother in 1987, but before then they were both pretty much the same character just with different names. IIRC the production bible said "the Witwicky boy," and while most G1 media went with "Buster," the Sunbow cartoon changed it to Spike and one of the colouring-in books changed it to Butch. Spike and Buster were retconned as brothers in '87 because Fortress Maximus.
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