Here's the thing. The 20% rating on RT? Does't matter. $65m opening was 35% higher than the studio estimated a week earlier. It's called over performing. Have a read over at Box Office Mojo - it's a great website for the realities of the industry ($$$ not creativity). http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3889&p=.htm
I'm not saying AOE wasn't utter shite. I'm not saying DOTM and ROTF weren't utter shite. And I'm not saying that, if I see Ninja Turtles, I won't think it's utter shite - it's highly likely I will.
What I'm saying is that people actively watch Michael Bay's movies and pay regularly to do so. His films make money for the most part. He delivers on time, on budget, a product that makes money. He's criticproof, in the sense that critics do not deter people going to see his films. He is an asset to Paramount.
He may be a hack, a jerk, and have the narrative sense of a dachshund, but he is, fiscally-speaking, a keeper.
Did you see TF4? Did you see TF3? Did you see TF2?
If so, you're part of the problem you're complaining about.
And if you didn't, or you enjoyed dropping the $20 (or whatever) on a ticket for it, good on you. Enjoy it.
As for the quality of a Marvel movie? Go see a Marvel movie. It's not like there aren't enough scheduled for the next few years. I've enjoyed 'em all (well, except The First Avenger, but it wasn't terrible!). If you go in to all movies expecting Marvel quality, or hold that studio on a pedestal, eventually you'll see them tank with something - it just doesn't look like it'll be anything soon. Right now, I'm just enjoying the ride.
He also got to do Pain & Gain, a film that would have barely broke even, but he did it on a small budget (for him) and with the backing/release/P&A of a major studio behind him. For making $1billion off $200million (while no doubt getting paid handsomely for it), he also got $26m (realistically, after Prints and Advertising, $50m) of the studios money for something he really wanted to do.
i'm glad that they've changed. "Decepticons, retreat" gets old real quick & if i wanted a G1 flavoured movie, i'd just watch the original cartoons.
As for the deaths, nobody is going to care much about about a background character that gets one in the head if they have no lines & just standt here
No. No reboots. Reboot is a horrible word look where it's gotten DC and it's "New 52." Just move forward in new direction.
So what's the bet if Bay does retire from Transformers and we all celebrate, until they get Brett Ratner, M. Night Shyamalan to replace him?
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I don't disagree - right now, Marvel are spinning shit into gold (seriously, who knew of GOTG a few years ago outside of hardcore comic fans?).
If TF4 was a bomb, you'd see changes. You think anyone writing the cheques is going to think any different? I'd be listening to the sounds of $1billion being counted, rather than the fanboys complaining?
I sometimes wonder though, if the G1 cartoon was based on the concept of selling products to kids, it makes you wonder - would a TF live action movie be any better if they just made the damn toys first? :P