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If you don't have any prior MP Prime releases, yeah it is a good one to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bidoofdude
The Japanese version of this mols is much nicer but very expensive. The Hasbro version is hard to call although it does have a lot of hasbro grey but it may turn out considerably cheaper.
The Japanese version definitely has gorgeous colours, but at nearly double* the cost of what the Hasbro one's slated to sell for here, even with an abundant amount of "Hasblo Grey" I would still consider the Hasbro version to be a fair deal. I can't justify paying for the TakTOM version (esp. when I already have MP01)... but I'm willing to pay $150 for MP10v2.0 ;)
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*MP10 RRP = 23100JPY = $285... that's just for the toy alone; factor in postage and it'd easily cost $300(+).
RobotKingdom has them for $180.
Don't know how that will reflect on the retail price here, or how much RK has upped the price. Although I remember the Hasbro Grimlock from RK was cheaper than retail here- not sure about Rodimus.
That is still pretty expensive for a Hasbro release..Quote:
Originally Posted by gdmetro
Interesting, $180AUD is what I paid for MP-10... Nine months ago. :rolleyes:
Yeah I can't say that I'll pay $180 for the Hasbro version. That's getting pretty expensive. Considering I already have MP-04.
We still don't know for sure if it'll be released in Oz yet do we??
I think so far we have had all the Hasbro MP releases so I can't see why we wouldn't get this one;):)
Griffin received confirmation from Toys 'R' Us a few months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Hasbro MP Optimus coming to Australia October
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Originally Posted by griffin
Well about a month ago I caved and bought the Jap version couldn't find the hasbro one locally so went for the expensive one and I'm glad that I did. Love the colours on it and the figure itself is absolutely brilliant!! The only complaint I have is the "dead eyes" which I fixed in about 10 mins ;)
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...psfa43c3db.jpg
much better now :D
yeah my one got a dead eye ...how did you fix it?
Hey I dissasembled the head and painted the eyes with a tamiya spray can and then put back togetherQuote:
Originally Posted by lancalot
Quick comparison of TakaraTOMY's MP10 w/ Hasbro's -- just the cab robot so far...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...psy2v09ifj.jpg
I can see what some people mean about TakTOM's eyes being dull compared to Hasbro's. The darker metallic blues on TakTOM's eyes seem to work better in theory than practice. But overall, TakTOM's darker colours do look much nicer. I like how TakTOM even painted the interior of the gun stowage compartment black! :eek: Cosmetic differences aside, both chest doors on my TakTOM MP10 do sit flush, whereas one of the ones on my Hasbro MP10 doesn't, especially in truck mode.
Nice image Gok.
Hasbro has the yellow paint app on Primes 'collar bone' ... a nice touch. TakTom looks to have a darker plastic grey which looks great with the darker blue.
Well worth getting both if one can afford it.
You know what is weird? When this MP 10 first came out, heaps of people on another forum were upset saying it was a step backward, too small, overpriced,bcankles etc and that they would rather keep their MP1 /MP4 and pay for the third party mp1 downscaled ripoff for generations series.
Fast forward a few years where are they? Almost all of them have an MP10 now.
It's funny how certain sections of our community can be so fickle!
I've had MP10 for a few years now and daaam it's the best G1 Optimus prime we have and will probably get ever. Our community is growing older and I doubt takara/hasbro will ever revisit Optimus prime in his G1 form again at least in a ready to play, transformable form. I'm not really sold on those highly poseable non-transformable statues.
I still think that MP-1 is definitely the superior MP toy; comparatively MP10 just doesn't compare. Having said that, MP10 is the better "package" in terms of coming with the trailer and Roller; so considering that they packed in more stuff with MP10, it's perfectly acceptable that the main cab robot wouldn't be anywhere near the level of MP-1. I can perfectly understand why people who already own MP1 might find MP10 to be redundant, as I felt the same way when MP10 was first released and skipped that toy. I since acquired Hasbro's MP10 after it came out here for nearly half the price of TakTOM's.
I have to say I most definitely prefer the aesthetics of MP10, I really don't like MP01 at all to be honest. MP10 is the ultimate Optimus Prime to me, thus I now own both the Hasbro and Takara versions (which my better half thinks is crazy!).
Although I was initially reluctant to get MP10 since I already have MP1, I caved. I bought the Hasbro version because I liked the lighter eyes and the fact that the running lights are painted.
Personally, I think MP1 is the better robot, but MP10 is the better Transformer. In my opinion, MP1 is better proportioned, and of course has the gimmicks; but MP10 does a far better job of hiding robot parts in vehicle mode, and the cab of the truck is a lot smoother. I don't really get the impression MP10 'suffers' in robot mode next to MP1, save for size (the smaller size means fewer gimmicks, but I don't mind that).
The one aspect of MP10 I don't like is the rifle - I feel it was compromised in both looks and (more importantly) size for the sake of the stowage gimmick. MP1's rifle looked better and was a good size compared to the robot.
This, although I own neither :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Kranix
Yeah I agree with what u guys said about mp1 as a better toy. I've got both MP1 and MP10.
I bought MP1 two to three years before MP10 came out. It was my first ever masterpiece and it was what got me hooked. But to be honest, when I first opened the box up, I was a little disappointed with the aesthetics because I thought it looked better in photos. But after playing around with it, I began to like it more.
MP10 is different. I wasn't 100% sold on the aesthetics based on the online pictures, but opening up the box, I blew me away completely.
I've since contemplated selling MP1 a number of times, but I've decided to keep it simply because I was thinking of doing a Optimus prime collection. Need to hunt down a THS and a G1 and a few others.
Mp-10 feels like "this is Optimus prime"
MP-1 feels like "I am the only Optiums Prime"
I have Mp-1. Mp-4 Mp-10 Hasbro and Mp-10 Takara.
I am disappointed that Takara has not pulled their socks up to do a version 2 repaint. The eyes of mp-10 Takara should have matched what is on MP-1, This one thing alone would have made me like the Takara version.
I don't know why Roller is silver, thats is a bad mistake.
Forced to buy this sucker because of the autobot cars. Mp-10 is a action figure to me and in truck mode it looks awkward at the leg area.
The riffle feels too small and I think they done a stupid thing of folding the gun while it can be kept in the trailer.
Poor hands, have to upgrade to KFC ones to make it look more like a masterpiece.
MP-10 scores a 7/10 for me.
The price differences is astronomical, While a YOTH Optimus went as low as $115 from Myers, The reissue Hasbro was at $210 on averaged same with Takara.
I left TT MP-10 in MISB while I played with the Hasbro as it felt better looking imo over TT version.
It shits me to say that they put more effort painting Eva MP-10 over the original prime.
I voted YES only because if you are collecting mp line this piece will match up with mp cars. I know of people who refuse to buy a mp-10 and will not budge.
Will I welcome a version3? Hell yes.
Looking at Goki's pics the Hasbro version feel's like he came alive. Thats just me, I just feel the TT version looked a bit way too dull compared to what they done on MP-1
Comparison pics between Hasbro & Takara versions here. :)
Yes. How dare TakaraTOMY give Roller show-accurate colours that was based on an actual 1984 variant of Roller! Let's shake our fists at them in anger!Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Shake harder, son!Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
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Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Don't look silver mate. For the record TT version was g1 toy accurate hence this would be incorrect. Not to mention eyes would be yellow if they want to go that path. If we going to say roller is silver than I would argue Magnus gun should be silver as well.
I still don't like the riffle and I did shook it off!
If it doesn't look right is not. The proportion is off for me, I see more times in the cartoon that it isn't a small gun or foldable weapon. < the weapon is not a major deal for me but I expected the fingers to be all articulated.
The eyes are what set me back, as they should have done mp1 style
Lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
This is from an interview with Shogo Hasui. Source: http://news.tfw2005.com/2012/03/26/t...60#more-174660
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– How were the accessories selected?
Hasui: The gimmicks and accessories that were present with MP-1 were omitted as far as possible because I felt doing the same was not interesting. I tried to include as many new gimmicks as the cost allowed. The Spike figure, the gun storage and Roller were the result of this.
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– Was the gun storage in his back inspired by the American comics?
Hasui: There was certainly an influence from the American comics, but basically that is taken from the cartoon, too. In many scenes, Convoy transforms with his gun. I wanted to make the most of that image. I assumed Convoy had a system to transform with his gun and incorporated (the gimmick).
MP10's instruction booklet explicitly states that the gun folding gimmick came from the "recent overseas comics where the gun folds and stores in his back." This is clearly seen in the IDW comics where the rifle folds in the exact same way as MP10's rifle, hence in my translation for Hasbro, I've made a more direct/explicit reference to it.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...psjgntna6i.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...psz94hxmet.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
#occupytakaratomyQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
Which is what MP1 has. Which is also why he can't hold his rifle very well (it's easily prone to falling out of his hands). MP1 already has a solid non-folding rifle and articulated fingers. I think that they wanted to do something different for MP10 by giving him the folding rifle and more solid hands that can hold the rifle a lot better than MP1. I personally appreciate this, as it helps to make my MP10 more distinctive from MP1. I would have a lot less interest in this toy if it were just a scaled down copy of MP1. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
MP10's eyes can actually look more vibrant under the right lighting conditions, but I agree that under most typical/normal lighting, they can look somewhat dull. I agree that MP1's and even Hasbro's MP10's eyes are better looking, but I don't dislike the eyes on TakaraTOMY's MP10 either. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by drifand
He did the gun storing in back thing in the Deamwave comics too didn't he? I couldn't be bothered to go check but that's where he pulled his gun from when he took Devastator down.
Sounds like Hasui was a little too proud to admit that Pat Lee had an influence on MP-10.
I wouldn't want to say that either :p
I don't recall the rifle folding up in the DW comics. But the way that MP10's rifle folds up is directly taken from IDW's Transformers Escalation, as illustrated by E. J. Su. Also, the original Japanese text is quite vague and just says, "Recent overseas comic." It doesn't specify publisher or artist. :o
Which is why I altered mine to have KFC Optimus hands and riffle which looks more how you put it "my gun is definitely deadlier".
Each to their own here, I have left the fiddle gun in his back compartment .
I believe his riffle was actually placed on roller
But anyway, this mp is a bit over priced and it lacked paint apps in many areas.
I am not slamming it as a boring figure but it doesn't wow me enough.
I certainly enjoyed ultra Magnus more than mp-10