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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonac View Post
    I've watched the first part of the documentary, and I can't say I'm impressed.
    Regarding the Phoenix Lights, did they bother to look up Mitch Stanley?
    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1997-...-ufo-cover-up/
    Here, they have an answer from someone who saw the lights with a telescope, yet they pretend he didn't exist.
    How many astronomers (amateur & professional) are interviewed in this 'doco'?
    Ah this is why i wanted a different perspective, they never did bother to look him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klystron View Post
    Nothing moves faster than the speed of light.
    'Cept Drift's kicks.

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    Just because current research denies that nothing moves faster then the speed of light doesn't make it so.
    We are using physics and its denominations to measure the physical universe. But no matter how deep we go it will always be from the perspective of humans. We had to invent extra dimensions of space in order to make the math work.
    I'm not saying Einstein got it wrong. I'm just saying that given how young (in the scheme of things) physics is that it would be premature to take current theories of gospel as they only work from our perspective.
    Just my opinion...I'm wrong again, aren't I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega View Post
    Just because current research denies that nothing moves faster then the speed of light doesn't make it so.
    We are using physics and its denominations to measure the physical universe. But no matter how deep we go it will always be from the perspective of humans. We had to invent extra dimensions of space in order to make the math work.
    I'm not saying Einstein got it wrong. I'm just saying that given how young (in the scheme of things) physics is that it would be premature to take current theories of gospel as they only work from our perspective.
    Just my opinion...I'm wrong again, aren't I?
    No dude, you're dead right and unlike other things which tend to be etched in stone - Science is always open to re-evaluation and re-writing.
    (Somethings are just easier than others it seems )

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    There is actually a really good series about this called 'Wonders of the Universe'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega View Post
    Just because current research denies that nothing moves faster then the speed of light doesn't make it so.
    We are using physics and its denominations to measure the physical universe. But no matter how deep we go it will always be from the perspective of humans. We had to invent extra dimensions of space in order to make the math work.
    I'm not saying Einstein got it wrong. I'm just saying that given how young (in the scheme of things) physics is that it would be premature to take current theories of gospel as they only work from our perspective.
    Just my opinion...I'm wrong again, aren't I?
    No you're not wrong. In fact you're dead right. However, we can speculate and dream and hypothesize whatever we want. Fact is, at the moment science tells us that nothing moves faster than the speed of light. Sure this may change in the future as we learn more (etc), but at the moment we are "limited" (?) by what we know.
    I am open to all possibilities - I definitely think there is more to know and we currently don't understand enough, but I also draw a line in the sand between fact and fiction (science and fantasy). No doubt this line will move over the course of my lifetime...
    Without "the line," conversations like this become boundless and you can dream up whatever you like.
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    I understand the need for 'The Line'. Without it we would branch out into Science Fiction without studying the facts. So I concede that in the present tense nothing moves faster then light in a vacuum.

    Seeing as how faster then light travel is not permitted by Einsteins Theory of Relativity the only way another form of intelligence life could get here was either by developing at a faster rate then us or by bending time/space. Perpetual Motion is ruled out as it goes against the Conservation of Energy rule. So where does the power come from to get them from point A to point B?

    Second if intelligent life has been visiting us then why are they so secretive? They would have the power to destroy us if need be. Why not say hello?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordCyrusOmega View Post
    Seeing as how faster then light travel is not permitted by Einsteins Theory of Relativity the only way another form of intelligence life could get here was either by developing at a faster rate then us or by bending time/space. Perpetual Motion is ruled out as it goes against the Conservation of Energy rule. So where does the power come from to get them from point A to point B?

    Second if intelligent life has been visiting us then why are they so secretive? They would have the power to destroy us if need be. Why not say hello?
    Alien life could get here the old fashioned way.
    Cryogenics, or colony ships.
    Those 2 options are somewhat feasible.

    They are so secretive because it is they that are running things. Our leaders are all aliens!

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    I knew it! We'll become pets or food for a race higher then our own.
    I think I'd like being a pet: lounge around the house, crap where i want, Demand food and not have to do anything..sounds sweet

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    I remember reading somewhere that if we are visited by aliens, they'd think dogs & cats run the place, and we are the lowly servants.

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