Canon

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't see how atmospheric elements (oxygen, nitrogen are the main components) have to be tied to biomatter elements (carbon)? Our atmosphere existed before (carbon-based) life began.

Wasn't the Earth's atmosphere initially toxic? I thought it only became breathable after microorganisms produced oxygen as a by-product and gave birth to the biosphere.

That's something that bugs me... there are people in fandoms that like to rant on, to seriously evaluate, justify or question the plausibility of a fictitious story and its plot devices, but then turn around to say that it all shouldn't be taken seriously when more plausible, opposing science or theories are brought in to it.

There's canonical or continuity logic, and there's scientific logic -- and the two don't always go together. As I said before, when reading or viewing science fiction and fantasy, the audience suspends disbelief for a lot of things. But there are limitations to this. While audiences can suspend sufficient disbelief in mass-shifting to believe that a robot full of mechanical components can transform into a car (where did all those internal robot parts go?) - they may not be able to do the same in believing that a giant robot can transform into a small hand held pistol or walkman.

And different audiences have different tolerances of disbelief... those with zero tolerance are most like those who just hate scifi and fantasy and won't have anything to do with them.

[Hursticon]

Wasn't the Earth's atmosphere initially toxic? I thought it only became breathable after microorganisms produced oxygen as a by-product and gave birth to the biosphere.

Toxic to whom though, to us - yeah, most likely but to a Robot that doesn't 'breathe' then probably not - There is a number of theories floating around about how oxygen was initially produced, personally I believe our Sister Planet Thea had a hand in it as she still affects our planet to this day.

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah but I'm talking about how Cybertron's atmosphere is easily breathable for humans. Throughout Transformers we frequently see humans (and Nebulans) on Cybertron breathing its air as if it were the same on Earth. I can believe that, being a near-human species, the air on Nebulos could be the same as Earth... but Cybertron... while perhaps not entirely impossible, seems perhaps rather remarkable.

[Verno]

Another reason we should go back and re-write G1. Add it to the mounting case.

[Gutsman Heavy]

The characters don't change, just the stories.

Go back and re-do the stories so they're a bit more thrilling, instead of Optimus being killed by Megatron in a computer game.

Isn't this just what IDW are doing? (and DW before them)

[Verno]

I certainly hope so

[Paulbot]

Cybertron is a class M planet. Deal with it.

(Actually Cybertron is Earth isn't it? That's how some ofthe wilder theories go.)

[theheretic]

Cybertron is a class M planet. Deal with it.

(Actually Cybertron is Earth isn't it? That's how some ofthe wilder theories go.)

I hadn't heard that one before. Where do those theories come from?

[Verno]

Ok.

How (over this seemingly billion year war) are new troops brought online?

We've seen the Matrix in Prime's chest is capable of bringing a Spark into the world and into a new body, but how do the Decepticons do it?

Is there a Well of Sparks that shoots them out from time to time at the will of Primus?

And in BW times, we hear tell of the 'Matrix' and the 'Pit' as the Maximal and Predacon facilities respectivaly for reformatting from Autobot to Maximal and for new 'bots to come online, but again, who holds the power to bring forth the Sparks to take up the new bodies?

[GoktimusPrime]

Cybertron is a class M planet. Deal with it.

Which, to me, makes more sense according to Beast Machines' retcon of Cybertron having originally been a planet that sustained organic life. Thus the Class M atmosphere could be a vestige of Cybertron having once sustained a biosphere.

I hadn't heard that one before. Where do those theories come from?

From fanboys'... ya know.

We've seen the Matrix in Prime's chest is capable of bringing a Spark into the world and into a new body, but how do the Decepticons do it?

They have wives and children. I kid you not...

Predacon Sparks come from a massive foundry on Cybertron known as The Pit.