Quote Originally Posted by kaiden View Post
well, value for money is subjective especially in regards to Transformers these days. the after market prices of G1 is a good indicator.
I don't think aftermarket prices for G1 is good value at all. I don't really collect toys in the aftermarket.

Quote Originally Posted by kaiden View Post
MP Grimlock is more expensive of course but for me it definitely had more play value and displays great. Henkei Grimlock even with the g3 sword didn't really do much for me and is packed away.
For me, I feel that Classics Grimlock is worth the $25 I paid for him. He has good articulation, good light piping, I like the gun-sword (a neat homage to G1 Pretender Grimlock's weapon)... the tail weapon's a bit funky... but it's cool how it's articulated and visually is kinda like another Pretender Grimmie homage (arguably even a Transmetal Megatron tribute too). My main criticisms of the toy would be that the robot shoulders could lock in tighter -- they sometimes disconnect during toy play. Ditto the dino mode arms. But it's not as bad as the joints on some Deluxe TFs who cannot lock at all like say Deluxe TF movie Decepticon Brawl (although there is a way to compensate for this), and worse still, Reveal the Shield Jazz - I can't stand how his chest keeps flopping around during play, and unlike Brawl I can't find an easy way to compensate for this. Overall, I think it's a neat Deluxe and fairly good value at the Deluxe price point.

MP Grimlock on the other hand is the most expensive MP I've ever bought. The second most expensive was Thundercracker which cost me 10500JPY (AU$130). MP Hasbro Starscream was $100 and Rodimus was $80 (the cheapest), and all other MPs cost me 10290JPY (AU$126).

MP Grimlock's not a bad toy - in fact, he offers better play value than many other MPs, but he is distinctly the most simple of the MPs in terms of engineering (well, aside from MP Rodimus Convoy's trailer - which I don't have anyway ). From waist down the toy does feel like a Masterpiece, but from waist up he feels more like an oversized G1 toy. As I said, it's not a bad design, but I don't think it was worth $150.

Lemme put it this way, when I bought MP Grimlock my initial thoughts were that it's a nice toy, but I felt a bit ripped off paying $150 for it. When I bought Classics Grimlock while it didn't blow my socks off, I didn't feel that I'd spent too much money on it. Value for money may be subjective (possibly because it depends on one's standards and values) - but I personally found Classics Deluxe Grimlock to be better value than MP Grimlock.

Quote Originally Posted by kaiden
If there was a regret for the Takara MP Grimlock I have it would be that it didn't have the accessories that the Hasbro version had.
When Takara MP Grimlock came out, I really wanted it, but I missed it because it came out just a few months before my daughter was born - so I was kinda pinching pennies at the time. In hindsight, I'm actually glad that I skipped Takara MP Grimmie in favour of Hasbro because of the accessories - especially because I just love G1 comic Grimlock and I find G1 cartoon Season 3 Grimlock to be annoying (I don't like how he and the Dinobots were reduced to bumbling infantile clowns after Transformers The Movie). And I've never been a fan of Nel Yomtov's colouring, so Hasbro's MP Grimmie gives me the best of both worlds - nice G1 toy accurate colours and his crown!

Also, I thought Tomy MP Grimmie was overpriced (so was Hasbro's, but Tomy's was more expensive! - 13650JPY = AU$168) -- but maybe for someone who prefers cartoon Grimlock over comic Grimlock Tomy MP Grimmie might be gooderer for them, and while they may pay $18 more (before postage), it does have a much nicer box and inserts (Hasbro's MP boxes are just suck).

Quote Originally Posted by kaiden
Henkei Grimlock I regret I bought to complete the line rather than actually enjoy as a toy.
Yeah, but for $25 (2000JPY) did you feel it was particularly poor value for money?