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Besides, there really isn't any other explanation beyond the word 'Dark' being a cryptic description of the secret the Moon held
I never knew "dark" was a synonym for "secret."

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i.e. a crap load of Decepticons, confusing the hell out of a lot of Movieverse plot.
There's a plot?!?

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I still love these films though.
I quite like the first film. It was sweet and simple - capturing the spirit of the G1 cartoon pretty well. The other two movies... well... there is a story, but the story is a lot like the kind of stories you make when you play with toys as a kid (or adult) - i.e. excuses to have fights!

Seriously... think back to your childhood to when you and your friends would collaboratively play with toys like Transformers. It'd be like;
"Okay, the Transformers are fighting on Cybertron - PEW! PEW! PEW! The Autobots are flying away on the Ark - zoooooomm! Hahaha, we're gonna escape with the Space Bridge parts!"
"Oh no you don't! Here comes a nasty Decepticon missile!"
"Nuh-uh, this ship's too fast for your stupid missile!"
"Oh yeah, well this missile shoots more missiles at you!"
"What?! How can a missile shoot more missiles?"
"Cos it's secret Decepticon technology, a hundred missiles come out, shwwooooooooosshh!"
"Oh yeah, well the Autobots spin the Ark to dodge the missiles!"
"These babies are heat-seeking missiles - the form a spiral around your ship, there's no way to escape! KA-BOOOOM! Your ship is blown to a million parts!"
"Nuh-uh! You only took out the back engine section! The ship now spins out of control into space where you can't get it and it's precious cargo!"
"What?!? You're cheating!"
"You cheated first with your missiles-shooting-missile!"
"Fine whatever."
"The Ark flies to Earth to provide reinforcements for Optimus Prime and his Autobots there."
"What? You said my missiles destroyed the engines, how can Sentinel Prime fly that thing to Earth and land it safely??"
"Fine, it crashes in the ocean, then Optimus Prime comes and rescues them and the space bridge."
"Don't be slack, let's say it crashes on the moon, okay?"
"Ocean."
"Sentinel Prime can't fly it to the moon with no engines you dummy! Let's say it crashes on the moon."
"Oh alright, it crashes on the moon. Then humans detect it and send a rescue team to the moon."
"How can humans rescue a giant alien ship??"
"*massive.groan* Alright, alright!! Hey, so they send some astronauts to check it out, is that okay?"
"Yeah."
"Crrk, any sign of life?"
"Negative, nothing's alive."
"What?!"
"They crashed on the moon, dude... they're all dead... except Sentinel Prime, we'll say he's not functional."
"*sigh* Okay."

...I could do this for the entire film.

Honestly, the stories in RotF and DotM play like the opening scene in Kung Fu Panda.
"And then he spoke, "Enough talk. LET'S FIGHT!""

The TF movies are fantastic spectacles... but as stories (and remember that cinema is a story-telling medium) I find they're rather lacklustre. If I wanna see the kind of stories I make up as I play with my toys... well then, I'll go play with my toys. Considering the amount of money that was pumped into this franchise, I find the stories a tad disappointing.