Things you never realised about Transformers (toys etc)

[Paulbot]

<clears.throat> Most of us here are twice your age or more^were children of the 80s who grew up with G1, so we've been used to the size of G1 toys for as long as they've been around... so it doesn't come as much of a surprise to us.

Well I've been a TransFan since an 80s childhood too, but can still get surprised how big or small some G1 Transformers I did not own (or see) as a child turn out to be.

One thing that still gets me every time I see them is how big the Pretender Beast shells are since I didn't see them in person until the mid-late 00's. Much larger than I ever imagined as a kid. Same with Galvatron. And Sixshot. which made Quickswitch disappointing small when I finally played with him.

[Hursticon]

Well I've been a TransFan since an 80s childhood too, but can still get surprised how big or small some G1 Transformers I did not own (or see) as a child turn out to be.

Yep! - I've experienced the same with many figures, such as Scorponok, Predaking, Sixshot, God Ginrai & Gnaw - Just to name a few.

@Bidoof: G1 figures and, by extension, that of G2 never actually had a hard or marketed "Size Class" as they predate these concepts (In the Transformers toy line at least).

Beast Wars (I believe) was the 1st Transformers Toyline to introduce consistent "size class"-based figures & price points; a marketing strategy that, although has had name changes over time (Basic=Scout, Mega=Voyager, Supreme=Leader ), remains with the franchise to this day.

[liegeprime]

hehe, Imagine if the toys relative size to each other were the strict basis for the cartoons sizing as well...... man oh man, it's a regular crazy cartoon with all the scale disproportions you'd see. As for Bumblebee's claim of being the smallest , pffft, liar hahahaha. What about Ultramagnus, he'd easily defest any gestalt with his size, so can Blaster. And by golly gee whiz how the heck are they gonna fit in Astrotrain hahahahaha.... I don't think the franchise would take off as much, most prolly would think, this is an idiotic show hahaha

[GoktimusPrime]

Beast Wars (I believe) was the 1st Transformers Toyline to introduce consistent "size class"-based figures & price points; a marketing strategy that, although has had name changes over time (Basic=Scout, Mega=Voyager, Supreme=Leader ), remains with the franchise to this day.

Yes, this is true. Before Beast Wars there was no such thing as established size classes/price points. Beast Wars introduced this concept and it's stuck ever since.

BW didn't had Supreme or Leader Class. BW had Basic (Scout/Commander), Deluxe (Deluxe), Mega (Voyager) and Ultra (Ultra). An example of more recent Ultra Class TFs would be Universe Powerglide, Onslaught, Silverbolt etc. BW also had Super Class, which was Optimal Optimus.

Supreme Class was introduced in Beast Machines, the first being overpriced-piece-of-crap^Supreme Cheetor. Examples of a more recent Supreme Class toy is Animated Roll-Out Optimus Prime.

[Hursticon]

BW didn't have Supreme or Leader Class... BW also had Super Class, which was Optimal Optimus.

Super/Supreme... I wasn't far off , but one could argue "Super" becoming "Supreme" which in-turn became "Leader" - But yeah, Leader was as a name certainly not present in BW.

[Bidoofdude]

Yes, this is true. Before Beast Wars there was no such thing as established size classes/price points. Beast Wars introduced this concept and it's stuck ever since.

BW didn't had Supreme or Leader Class. BW had Basic (Scout/Commander), Deluxe (Deluxe), Mega (Voyager) and Ultra (Ultra). An example of more recent Ultra Class TFs would be Universe Powerglide, Onslaught, Silverbolt etc. BW also had Super Class, which was Optimal Optimus.

Supreme Class was introduced in Beast Machines, the first being overpriced-piece-of-crap^Supreme Cheetor. Examples of a more recent Supreme Class toy is Animated Roll-Out Optimus Prime.

Yeah, growing up with Cybertron, Supreme was absolutely enormous to my 5 or 6 year old self, almost double what he'd seem like to me now. G1 was pretty whacky with the scale.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Well I've been a TransFan since an 80s childhood too, but can still get surprised how big or small some G1 Transformers I did not own (or see) as a child turn out to be.

Hound and skids when I first saw them.

Shock ensued.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Well I've been a TransFan since an 80s childhood too, but can still get surprised how big or small some G1 Transformers I did not own (or see) as a child turn out to be.

I had Menasor for the better part of my childhood before trading it away (and miraculously getting it back a few years ago).
But before then, i saw it for the first time since my childhood at Tet's house for one of the first meets i attended... i was certain it was a mini KO version!
Though he is small compared to Superion (which i also had/re-attained), they all seemed massive to me as a kid!

[Firestorm]

I haven't experienced abnormal sizes all that much, but the biggest in my case was Optimal Optimus, he was always huge in my memory, and it didn't help that my little brother only even knew him as "Big Octomas" but after getting what was left of my brother's Optimal he was a lot smaller than I remembered.
I'm also surprised by how small or huge some G1 toys are compared to each other, like how Optimus is quite small while Jetfire was much larger
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as for my own recent realisation

I had always been annoyed by how bad the balance of Deluxe WFC Optimus was, but the other day I grabbed mine off the shelf to fiddle with it and finally realised that his ball jointed feet can be pushed back to give him better balance, and also make his "toes" shorter and less clown shoe like.
no more toppling over backwards anymore

[DELTAprime]

I got an almost mint Optimal Optimus a couple of weeks ago from Seibertron's ebay page. I was very surprised how small he was when I got him. I was thinking that Super=Supreme, well now I know Super was a one off size class.