The Golden Disks

[Ace]

Sorry if this is a stupid question verno, but do we know who the young predacon is?

[griffin]

Interesting idea there Verno. It's plausible, as it seems to fit within the cartoon universe. The whole "time loop" element is always going to be difficult to work with... or help explain some things.

[Sky Shadow]

Sorry if this is a stupid question verno, but do we know who the young predacon is?

It's this guy: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Megatron_%28B...oon_continuity

[Verno]

Sorry if this is a stupid question verno, but do we know who the young predacon is?

Sky Shadow is spot on - Beast Wars Megatron is indeed the young Predacon.

Interesting idea there Verno. It's plausible, as it seems to fit within the cartoon universe. The whole "time loop" element is always going to be difficult to work with... or help explain some things.

I like to work within the confines of Canon as much as I can, thus why I'm always asking stupid questions about G1 and such. The more I tie it directly to those events the better.

I'm trying to avoid paradoxes as much as possible, but when it comes to time travel, sometimes it's impossible. Being influenced by something that you haven't done yet etc etc.

Is there anything that stands out as unlikely or implausable?

The charred remains are of course Scorponok and Terrorsaur. There's a paradox for you.

I'd love some criticism to tear the story apart. It clearly needs work and I wrote it in about an hour, so it's hardly a finished and concise work.

[UltraMarginal]

Sky Shadow is spot on - Beast Wars Megatron is indeed the young Predacon.



I like to work within the confines of Canon as much as I can, thus why I'm always asking stupid questions about G1 and such. The more I tie it directly to those events the better.

I'm trying to avoid paradoxes as much as possible, but when it comes to time travel, sometimes it's impossible. Being influenced by something that you haven't done yet etc etc.

Is there anything that stands out as unlikely or implausable?

The charred remains are of course Scorponok and Terrorsaur. There's a paradox for you.

I'd love some criticism to tear the story apart. It clearly needs work and I wrote it in about an hour, so it's hardly a finished and concise work.

I think I'd have to do a lot of research and watch all of beastwars again to come up with any criticism contsructive or otherwise. it sounds good, time travel is always hard to get your head around, but that makes it just that much more fun.

[Verno]

I don't think you have to be well versed in BW lore to comment, as long as its a good Transformers story, or a good story full stop. If there are gaping holes in the story that I've over looked in my haste, then I'd like to know about them

[Paulbot]

You could throw some human traditions into this? Perhaps those tablets of Moses were Golden Vok disks? Or perhaps the Ark of the Convenant was made from Golden Vok disks? Perhaps the Mormon prophet's golden plates were Vok in nature? And there's probably examples others from other cultures of items through which non-corporeal higher beings contacted humanity in order to shape their development.

[Verno]

When I first considered throwing in humans worshipping a Vok artifact, namely a disk, my first thought was of course the Egyptians. Their belief in the sun disk, or Aten, plus their fascination with gold - the image of the Vok Golden disk suits perfectly.

But as ROTF has now tarnished any Egyptian contact with what happened in that movie, I figured the second best option would be the Mayans, who also loved some gold.

I also didn't want to go too nuts about the number of Vok artifacts left behind or untriggered. One or two or the most, as the traps were designed to attract intelligent life, so they'd be surely all found by now.

The Bemuda Triangle came to mind for some reason, as the Vok traps were clearly anti-technological based life forms in design. They must have disliked robots. And what does the Bemuda Triangle supposedly do to technology? Screws it up, that's right.

I'm an atheist so giving any recent (last 2000 years) religion credence with the use of Transformers seems very off to me so I won't be going anywhere near that.

I could never take Mormons seriously, even less so after the South Park episode about them But this is not a discussion about religion.

[Verno]

Alright, try this on for size.

In BW era Cybertron, the Golden Disk has a lot of rumors surrounding it, one especially - that it would lead to a major Energon source. But why?

Earth's location is a closely guarded secret in BW times. Perhaps because of the advent of TransWarp technology, perhaps because they have interfered enough with Earth and wish to cut those kind of shenanigans out.

So in order to keep to location secret, Autobots had to control the flow of information, but how could they do that when the human themselves had launched probes out into space that held Earth's location already?!

The Autobots new of the probes, but the Decepticons and Predacons didn't. So after the war, the Maximals spent time scouring space for the proves to either destroy them or keep them in a safe place. In Vernoverse, Earth had been destroyed, so somewhat romantically the Autobots kept one of the Voyager probes as a memento, whilst destroying the other.

But from the Predacon side of things, why would the Maximals go to so much effort to find these probes if they were of little importance? Ideas were thrown up, ideas turned into rumors and thus the plague of non-factual information spread and suddenly the disk holds the key to the Predacons rising up to claim Cybertron!

Thoughts?