Well, I guess another poorly-written movie sequel is better than a more-of-the-same 're-imagining' from the same one-trick pony as before. At least this way when they eventually do a reboot it'll be an actual reboot.
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Well, I guess another poorly-written movie sequel is better than a more-of-the-same 're-imagining' from the same one-trick pony as before. At least this way when they eventually do a reboot it'll be an actual reboot.
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As a reboot, the next TF movie might be okay. Because the first Transformers movie was fairly enjoyable. It was pretty simple and captured the spirit of the G1 cartoon fairly well. It didn't have much story depth, but as a first movie that introduces the audience to the world of the Transformers, that's fine.
The sequels should be where the story delves deeper into the finer workings of that story's world. Look at say X-Men compared to X-Men 2 -- the first one was a simple but enjoyable story, and X2 was much more character-story driven (primarily around Wolverine). Ditto A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back and numerous other examples that I'm sure we can all think of. The problem with ROTF and DOTM isn't that they didn't try to dig deeper into the world of the Transformers - they did. The problem is that they didn't do a terribly good job of it. When delving into the depths of world-building, the stories of ROTF and DOTM is like watching someone clumsily fall down a flight of stairs. I hope that Bay takes the opportunity of doing a re-boot and improves on the weaknesses of the trilogy. Otherwise, what's the point of doing a reboot? If we're gonna have more of the same old same old, then I'd honestly rather have a sequel to DOTM... seriously.
And I hope Hasbro takes notes from the way they badly handled the DOTM toy line... but ya know... it's Archer... his learning curve is haphazard at best. (-_-)
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Aaron Archer is just one in a chain of people who approve of or decides what happens with Transformers. Targeting one person out of the several layers of management is like blaming a one person at KFC for those dreadful Fresh Subs they are currently selling.Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
So far you've blamed him for everything since Beast Wars to the current Movies. He's been promoted through several levels of Management during that time, and each step of that management ladder would be just one stage of approvals/decisions... meaning that decisions pass through him, but are hardly exclusively his. Anything specific that fans dislike about the Transformers toys, went through several people before it got to him, and until recently, still had to go through people above him. (and even still, the CEO would probably still have some say in the direction of the Brand)
And Hasbro won't learn, or change, because they would still see DotM as a success. The movie made them heaps of money, and the toys were still bought up by retailers to almost the same level as RotF.
It's kinda like Coles or Woolies being open late (or those 24 hour department stores) - at certain late hours they are operating at a loss per hour, but over the day as a whole, those meager sales have added to their total sales for that day, making it look better than if they closed early.
Hasbro may have taken a loss on maybe 3 or 4 DotM toy moulds (and that's only if they never re-release them - but they will eventually), but those smaller sales made from a limited production run adds to their total sales figures for the Brand as a whole - which is all they target and later boast about to their shareholders.
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I dunno, the image of an Angry Archer-esque Aaron Archer swinging away from TRU backrooms with sacks of DotM Quejacks is pretty amusing IMO.
"Tally ho! Thou whiny fans shalt not have thine plastic idols this day!"
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Obscure and hilarious.
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Gooollllldddddnnnnneerrr!! *shakes.fist*
So short sighted.But typical of Hasbro... they only care about what retailers are buying and not what the end consumers are buying (or not buying). Hasbro reps should be paying attention to shelf warmers because obviously if toys shelfwarm, they're dead stock to the retailers, who in turn will be reluctant from reordering more stock in the future if existing stock is still cluttering their shelves. IMHO Takara (and even the less caring TakaraTOMY) care more than Hasbro -- they try to make products that are pleasing to the end consumer, which in turn sells the toys which in turn encourages retailers to order more stock. It's not rocket science.
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Happened to be browsing on Michael Bay's website for another reason (honestly, I'm ashamed to say I was there). From the horse's mouth... he's directing another film first, then TF4.
Damn, I actually believed that there might be a reboot. Fresh ideas. Fresh perspectives.
I never intended watching another Bay TF film after the dreadful ROTF, but I was duped by a few reviews and fanboys, who declared DOTM to be "brilliant", and saw it as a result. They were wrong! At least, I can safely say I won't be fooled again.
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"Bay will bring audiences a new take on the “Transformers” franchise" <--does this mean reboot? (although with Bay at the help there won't be much in the way of fresh ideas or perspectives)
They should just keep TF4 in the same continuity as the first three films if they're gonna keep Bay as the director, honestly. IMO I'd rather see either a Bay-directed sequel to DOTM or a non-Bay directed reboot. Don't see the point of a Bay-directed reboot...
DOTM was brilliant compared to ROTF!! You see, everything's great when you lower your standards!
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It has been confirmed as a reboot
I'm really just here for the free food and open bar.
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Sigh! I'm not a fan of bay movies, I can sit through the first one every now and then, I have watched ROTF twice and that was one time too many and haven't even bothered with a DVD of the DOTM movie or seen it again as I'm sure it'll make me ill. I'm not going to rant and rave and refuse to see the next movie as I'm sure I will, This doesn't mean I think it's going to be any good it just means I'm a glutton for punishment and OCD where TF's are concerned
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