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I have much bigger issues with holding toys than I do with a secret sightings section. Yes it's keeping scalpers from buying them, but it's also unfairly keeping anyone else from doing so. Whoever gets to the shelves first should have a chance to buy the toys, whether they be Ozformers, parents, kids or other. Putting toys on hold (particularly by phone) is almost as bad as hiding them.
Putting a bunch of toys on hold for other people is just as bad as scalping.Originally Posted by Sky Shadow
I don't contribute to the forum much but I do visit and read the threads 3-4 times a day. i am an ordinary collector. Stopping people who are ranked poorly like me from viewing sightings is quite bizarre as you are not doing the forum any favours. And by the way, it can work both ways...I have sighted heaps of things at certain places here in Perth as I travel around as part of my job. If I can't see what's been sighted elsewhere, why should I tell others where things are.
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there is really no need for secret sightings, i like how we advertise stuff to help others doesnt matter if they are noobies or veterens or even scalpers..,
i guess toy collecting is alot like survival of the fittest..
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I had a problem holding toys as well. But considering the small amount of new toys that enter the Illawarra I'd rather pass it on to collectors first. I never hold every toy. It's usually only 2. Holding toys does prevent others from having access but it also prevents those that walk in and buy multiples only to pass them on at an increased cost
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It's doing a favour for other members who contribute. Just looking at your total posts (2), sightings have been posted a lot. You most likely haven't posted a sighting even with the advantage of your job travel.
It's not bizarre. If the intention of a forum/community is to have majority of its members just waiting for active members to contribute, then you are right.
But if it's more to benefit the more active members, then you are most likely wrong. You can just refer to the sales section.
I think there should be a limit to what can be reserved over the phone so that people walking in can still have a chance at buying a toy. I also believe there should be a limit as to how many toys you can buy to prevent scalpers. If they did buy one or two from multiple stores, then at least they made the effort of hunting down the toys instead of buying 6 from one store location. However if the toy is shelfwarming, you can buy multiples to clear the stock that no one else wants
I don't see the point of honoring phone reservation if someone in store is asking the same thing to be put on hold. That person came in first, but because the stock isn't on the floor yet - he can't even ask for a reservation.
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Sure you can buy 6 MP Thundercrackers but you have to buy a bumblebee for every thundercracker as well....I think there should be a limit to what can be reserved over the phone so that people walking in can still have a chance at buying a toy. I also believe there should be a limit as to how many toys you can buy to prevent scalpers. If they did buy one or two from multiple stores, then at least they made the effort of hunting down the toys instead of buying 6 from one store location. However if the toy is shelfwarming, you can buy multiples to clear the stock that no one else wants
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My humble opinion...
I think it's a little bit much to have secret sightings. The reason of having a community is the interaction. To inform others of the item of interestis the single most joy I've had in this community. Finding first sightings is something that still gets my blood rising and can't wait to share with others.
I think the issue is just sour grapes that some fans missed out. Myself included. But it's part of it. We all know MP's are always limited due to their price and appeal as all are considered toys in this country. I called around to see if there's any but turned up zilch and I really wanted one. I'd just have to go without and hope to nab one in the future somehow. That's just the way life goes. I'm not more entitled to anything than anyone else regardless of status.
It's just a case of short supply. In contrast, my other robot love is Gundam kits. Those are constantly reprinted and attainable and have none of these problems and they aren't distributed locally at all. I'm going off topic now so I'll stop.
I don't think a secret sighting section will make any difference to the supply demand problem. There's greater issues in hand than just a few posts.
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I too don't see the need for a 'Secret Sightings' section, but I will gladly back Scalpers being tasered on sight... multiple times...
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You said it interaction. Others aren't interacting.
It's not sour graphing when you hear of someone buying too many multiples & one sighting at a toy fair selling at more than double the price.think the issue is just sour grapes that some fans missed out. Myself included. But it's part of it. We all know MP's are always limited due to their price and appeal as all are considered toys in this country. I called around to see if there's any but turned up zilch and I really wanted one. I'd just have to go without and hope to nab one in the future somehow. That's just the way life goes.
I don't think a secret sighting section will make any difference to the supply demand problem. There's greater issues in hand than just a few posts.
With the supply issue, there's nothing to do there. I guess my attitude is of preference. I'd like my close friends to have the same toy ahead of others I don't know due to short supply.
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I think it's too easy to dismiss any points made as sour grapes. But people like me are for it, and I got both recent MPs first time, so that's out for me.
I'm a bit surprised at the dislike for phone holds. I've never thought about that. I used that to get TC, because I wasn't driving to the other side of the city otherwise. I know of 4 of the others that went that morning, and mine was the only phone hold.
If a store doesn't want to take phone holds, fine. I have no issue with that. But I'd be pissed if they did accept a phone hold, but then sold it to someone else. I'd made the trip in good faith that they were to honour their offer of the hold.
I DO disagree with the proposal of a mass phone hold. That goes against the spirit of collecting, and it's no different to scalping. It's blocking consumers from any access to the product. And they're not even guaranteed sales. If you hold them all for a group, but there's not enough people, are you willing to pay for the extras?
I'd have a huge problem with that, along with any other proposal that has the same effect of removing them all from sale.
Secret Sightings = people have just as much of a chance, they just have to do the work themselves, and not rely on others to do it for them.
Autobot is complaining about it, when they haven't posted any sightings, despite apparently having good access. Well then, your usual trips will be just as beneficial as before. You just won't have us doing your work for you, without you bothering to return the favour at any time. 'Leeching' seems to describe the situation quite well.
I also don't think the one sighting of OP for sale at a toy fair means anything. One got scalped out of the dozens released at that time. That's statistically insignificant. It also could have come from overseas.
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