yeah well, the way they mollycoddle offenders here compared how they shame and make people do public service in Singapore.... not gonna happen soon Gok. Provided it is more of an effective punishment mind you, but, have you seen the people they interview on TV? They offend and yet when they're being given the punishment... all they always seem claim is it's so "unaustralian" or they always claim they have rights. I say, the moment you offend and break the law, your fricken rights are cancleed and you should be subject to full extent of corporal punishments... coz let's face it a slap on the wrist punishments the courts hand out these days are laughed at by these hoodlums someone needs to put them in the frontlines of killing out the fires they caused, mebbe then they'd get the message. If they loose their lives doing so (prolly from a lack of proper training) well good riddance to socially inept and rubbish individuals, the society can function better without them.