Combiner Wars wave 1 toys official images

[5FDP]

Any excitement I had for these are now gone after seeing these images I could possibly live with a helicopter limb, but as others have said, Silverbolt looks like crap. You just know that TakTom will come out with their own version with corrected gold paint apps, but there is nothing they can do about that horrible alt mode. Oh well.

[griffin]

The helicopter keeps making me think of the Energon Optimus drones (one of the most disappointing toys of that era)... and it's probably going to look very similar when combined with the Voyager Optimus too.

Silverbolt's kibble is awful. Prime is underwhelming also - given that he's not combining I'd expect better.

Optimus does combine. He officially combines with the whole first wave.

As he said, Optimus ends up being a combiner, because Motormaster is a redeco of Optimus (with a new head) for the second wave.
I'd imagine that they had Motormaster planned first, and made Optimus from it to get more out of the mould... but then released Optimus first for some reason. It would have made better sense to release Motormaster first, so then the core for the Stunticons is ready for whenever the rest of the Deluxe Stunticons are released. Because often, 2 or 3 waves of Deluxes can hit stores before they restock the second wave of Voyagers.
Besides, Optimus will sell as a character no matter how bad the toy looks (for being a pre-emptive redeco of Motormaster), so Optimus in the second wave instead of Motormaster could have done just as well as selling the core of the second set of Deluxes in wave 2 (to force people to keep going back to the stores to find it later).

[rodent]

That Silverbolt looks like absolute garbage, which to be fair is hard to hold against it because every attempt at a Silverbolt ever (including TFC's third party attempt for the Uranos combiner) has amounted to a robot really obviously squatting under a model plane.

Exactly this. I can't consider it a proper Silverbolt if it didn't have all that bot kibble underneath. Maybe I'm just nostalgic, as the Aerialbots were my first TF's ever (in fact, I still have them all, intact for the most part).

[UltraMarginal]

Those jet modes sure so have a lot of exposed limbs. But the Aerialbot robot modes look great.



That'll be what that "look at the back" call out is all about, based on what we saw of the back of the voyager boxes previously. Not enough room for it with the multilingual packaging.

I'm a little disappointed by how exposed the limbs are. and that helicopter really looks like a space shuttle in disguise with all those windows laid out like that at the front. I see a combaticon remold or two coming out of that guy.

Silverbolt's kibble is awful. Prime is underwhelming also - given that he's not combining I'd expect better.

As mentioned above, prime is essentially a remold/repaint of Motormaster. It looks like the alt modes and robot modes of a lot of these figures has been sacrificed to some degree for the combined form. but most people will probably display these in combined form and most kids will have them combined for a lot of play. Why wouldn't you

I'm curious about the use of additional pieces forming the hands and feet. Do people feel it's a step backwards? Or just a necessary evil?

The concept of having all parts attached in all modes is very cool and attractive but it puts a lot of limitation s on geometry that is already trying to achieve 3 modes. While I liked the FOC Bruticus a lot of it's issues stemmed from having to incorporate the hands and feet in the toys, I don't think it's a step back in overall terms, especially if it means we get good hands and feet.


I'm still cautiously optimistic about this line, only time will tell

[Lord_Zed]

Exactly this. I can't consider it a proper Silverbolt if it didn't have all that bot kibble underneath. Maybe I'm just nostalgic, as the Aerialbots were my first TF's ever (in fact, I still have them all, intact for the most part).

While this is true, it seems like this iteration of Silverbolt is taking it to a whole new level. It's almost like they took Blaster in altmode and stuck him to the bottom of the SST mode.

[philby]

that collector card for optimus prime uses art from the transformers legends game. i cant quite tell if any of thd others do though

[doublespy]

It looks like Silverbolt is slightly mistranformed in alt mode compared to the photoshop'ed stock photo. The arms under the wings should be able to bend inwards a bit more sit be parallel to the fuselage. It might help a little bit...

I don't get it. The triple changers made Generations so promising, and then the level of engineering has dropped dramatically. Now we get something like voyager Brainstorm, whose transformation to me is on the same level as the original G1 Brainstorm designed near 30 years ago(who actually hides the face BETTER when in headmaster mode).

It is just the difference between designers? Or is it simply the development time? (Springer apparently had been in development for 2 years.)

The Deluxe Stunticons IMO are better in every mode. In combined mode they don't have individual limbs hanging off everywhere.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'm curious about the use of additional pieces forming the hands and feet. Do people feel it's a step backwards? Or just a necessary evil?

I don't mind it - incorporating the hands/feet into the gestalt limbs often seems to compromise the rest of the toys in Scramble-city-esque combiners. As long as HTT allow for some sort of storage of all the accessories in all the modes then I can allow them a cop-out or two.
Sadly the days of the likes of Tripredacus and Rail Racer (which even then had its flaws with the team members for the sake of the gestalt - Midnight Express is a bit on the leggy side, for example) are long gone.

[Lord_Zed]

Hasbro know how to make decent car TF's better than jet ones, so it's not s surprising the Stunticons are better. I can't help but notice the alt modes are rather lacking in paint aps also. Prime in particular could do with a lot more paint to mask that Hasbro gray, and those boring wheels.

that collector card for optimus prime uses art from the transformers legends game. i cant quite tell if any of thd others do though

Silverbolt's card art sure doesn't match the toy, so possibly his does too.

[dirge]

Wait.... Motormaster shares that mould? How... awful. I'm skipping Motormaster if that's the case. I'll probably just get his Stunticon limbs then.

I don't really want these guys as combiners anyway; just G1 classic charactes.