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And I don't.

If you are tired of Transformers maybe you should stop everything altogether.

Who is going to complain about combiner wars robots that combined for 30 years? Exactly? What? Have Transformers but dont transform as a new point of direction? Ur no thanks.

Hell yeah, I want to see prime die again.
Bring on powermaster optimus. In fact I want to see Bay run out of options and finally throw in the towel, so bring it on. the faster he finishes this line, the better. I know he does a half arse job in the direction it has gone. Since TF 3 its been a great down slide.

Episode 5 should just solely focus on how bumble bee gets his voice back. < can't see the point he can get a new car body everytime but can't fix his voice.

This story line is sadly on a downhill slide, so only explosions and more Autobots dying is the way to go. Yeah comes to a point where humans are the decepticons and probably one where autobots have to work hand in hand with decepticons for their survival.
I guess I went too far when I assumed that we all, as Transformers fans, wanted to see the cinematic venture continue to succeed. Apparently, some of us would rather see the demise of one of the central sustaining pillars of the brand than see it continue in a way that doesn't continually massage our sense of nostalgia or our preconceptions of how things should be.

Silly me.

In defense of Michael Bay, whilst you can (and I do) criticise him for doing a bad job, I don't think it's fair to suggest that he doesn't put a lot of effort into his moviemaking.

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BTW, many out there are clueless of the existence of G1 Transformers.
What I feel is the movie line has almost demolished every single thing that what transformers was.
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Likewise Star wars has build up a lot of hype and will definately get $$$, but will the fans like it?
The kind of snobbery that you're displaying here Drifand really just seems bizarre to me. It's Transformers. The whole basis of the brand's continuing success is its broad appeal. But God forbid that a brand should ever go beyond fanservice! It's like the classic fan-entitlement phenomenon: they've been giving you something you treasure for thirty years and you've been dutifully sucking it all up, so obviously, you know, they OWE you. God forbid that a new incarnation of Transformers should be anything more than just a clever re-packaging of everything from G1. Naturally! Anything else just wouldn't be authentic Transformers, would it?

Sometimes, I think the connection to the history of the brand is one of Transformers' great strengths. Other times, I feel like this insistence on constantly re-creating the past is really just a great big albatross around the neck of the brand.

How do the movies destroy G1? G1 is G1. G1 will always be G1. It's safe. And guess what else? G1 was over a long time ago.

It's amazing to me that fans of a cartoon and toyline from three decades ago can still go out and buy brand-new toys of some of their favourite characters (frigging masterpieces!!) and then turn around and complain that their treasured childhood memories are being destroyed when the brand isn't directing all of its attention towards servicing their wants. I honestly think that the Transformers fandom has some of the most petulant and spoiled members of any fandom.

I'm not saying you're guilty of all that Drifand, but I do see echoes of it in your attitude.

(...runs and hides...)