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[Paulbot]

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So does that mean Clara is like a Clone?

A "second" of her life was removed and put on a timeloop "between heartbeats", which allows the rest of her to die as normal without causing a contradiction (if she was completely removed, she wouldn't be killed in the trap street, and the Doctor wouldn't be on a quest for vengeance, or demand to have her removed before she dies).

The inclusion of Rassilon was short and almost unnecessary, and suddenly he was gone from the story. He's like the Primus of Transformers (without the insanity element), as he created the Timelords, and then he just walks off because he is told to by the Doctor. Whatever.

No, not like a clone. As they explained in the episode it is her taken out of her time stream at the last possible moment. She still has to go back because her death is a fixed point in time but she's in no hurry. There's at least another example of this in fiction that's nagging at my memory but I can't quite place an exact example.

She's finished her story arc of becoming more and more like the doctor by stealing a Tardis and running off through space and time with a companion. It's a nice way to go out. I wondered if her new status quo provided a more straight forward way for her to become the Impossible Girl. She can travel through space and time and cross paths with the Doctor many times over. Oswin Oswald and Clara Oswin Oswald though both seem to be their own people so maybe not.

I'm also curious about the end of the universe. We've got Me hanging out in the ruins of Gallifrey. We've got Professor Yana helping to build a rocket to take surviving humans to Utopia. We've got some... thing... outside knocking on Orson Pink's door. Was that Me? I've always assumed the Doctor took the Master's body back to Prof Yana's planet to bury him at the end of season three, at the end of time, so the woman taking the ring? Who's never been explicitly identified? Was that Clara and/or Me? The Master had to come back in order for him to connect Clara and the Doctor. Were they maybe doing some predestination time loop stuff?

Rassilon didn't quite "just walk off". There was a military coup. A bloodless one, but for sure the military turned on their leadership. I just thought it a shame that since he had regenerated since his last appearance in Ten's last story, I didn't recognise it was meant to be Rassilon until he left.

[jazzcomp]

What's the difference between Capn Jack and Clara? They're both fixed points in time. One is allowed to be immortal, the other results in the destruction of the universe

[Handsprime]

What's the difference between Capn Jack and Clara? They're both fixed points in time. One is allowed to be immortal, the other results in the destruction of the universe

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Clara has to return back to gallerfray (I know I mispelled it I never payed attention to how you spell it), but she is in a state where she won't age so as long as she doesn't accidentally kill herself, she'll eventually have to return to face her doom, which would be her death. Captain Jack? Not too certain he's immortal and that's all I know

[GoktimusPrime]

Don't forget the Face of Bo.

Also, it's "Gallifrey."

[UltraMarginal]

I've quite enjoyed this season, I think one of the strengths of Dr Who is that you can have one episode that is a slower pace and full of mystery, the next is fast paced and explosive and the next is something else again, probably scary.

I have found Capaldi to be a refreshing change for the Doctor as well.

it's interesting that they have finally given Me a peer to travel through time with. I expect we'll be seeing more of them.

I'm always excited for the Christmas special but I really can't stand that British comedian that they seem to have picked to feature in this next one.

[griffin]

No, not like a clone. As they explained in the episode it is her taken out of her time stream at the last possible moment. She still has to go back because her death is a fixed point in time but she's in no hurry. There's at least another example of this in fiction that's nagging at my memory but I can't quite place an exact example.

Would you be thinking of the Angels of New York, which was a bit of a confusing story about the mess of temporal contradictions. Or one of the many times the Doctor has pre-planted something, or himself (like in the underwater ghosts episode this season), to be in the right place when him or other people need it during the "present" time of the episode's plot.


I just think that for Clara, if she was completely removed from Trap Street, and the actress has left the series, it's a big loose end to just hope gets resolved some time down the track. (considering past companions return for guest spots, it's more than likely she will return in some future episodes... unless she's like Eccleston and refuses to ever go back to DW)
We'll see I guess.

[Paulbot]

She's only removed from Trap Street for a moment, the time between heartbeats. No matter what adventures Clara has, she goes back to Gallifrey and gets sent back to Trap Street to fall down dead, because we've seen that as a fixed point in time. It's a nice way to allow limitless comic stories and audio-dramas with Clara and Me adventures (where it doesn't matter how old the actresses playing the immortal unageing characters look).

As an aside, there's new 'missing' Ten and Donna adventures coming out in the audio-drama series with both David Tennant and Catherine Tate returning, that I'm very interested in checking out.

[GoktimusPrime]

Looks like Capaldi's going to be calling it quits.
http://screenrant.com/doctor-who-sea...di-final-year/

[SMHFConvoy]

Looks like Capaldi's going to be calling it quits.
http://screenrant.com/doctor-who-sea...di-final-year/

Which is a shame, Capaldi was wasted by Moffatt

[CBratron]

Christmas Special on boxing day. So exciting