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    Question:

    How many people are fighting for Skywarp or Bombshell because they had that toy as a kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KELPIE View Post
    Question:

    How many people are fighting for Skywarp or Bombshell because they had that toy as a kid?
    Ironically Bombshell was like my third ever TF as a kid and I didn’t get Skywarp until I became an adult collector.

    Anyway, I thought we sorted this - it was Hound, definitely

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    I only ever had a Cyclonus
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    my original collection from when I was more impressionable.
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    (some people just need to be careful about jumping in too seriously, in this VERY tongue-in-cheek discussion topic, which has a lot of ribbing among people who already know each other, to know that their comments about each other are in jest)



    Next week's unresolvable topic.... Is Rumble red or blue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMarginal View Post
    I only ever had a Cyclonus
    Same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KELPIE View Post
    Question:

    How many people are fighting for Skywarp or Bombshell because they had that toy as a kid?
    Quote Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev View Post
    Ironically Bombshell was like my third ever TF as a kid and I didn’t get Skywarp until I became an adult collector.
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMarginal View Post
    I only ever had a Cyclonus
    Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
    Same.
    And just as Bombshell my second ever Decepticon, Cyclonus was my third.

    By that pattern, Dirge should be Cyclonus since he was my first. Luckily we all know now it was a certain green jeep

    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    (some people just need to be careful about jumping in too seriously, in this VERY tongue-in-cheek discussion topic, which has a lot of ribbing among people who already know each other, to know that their comments about each other are in jest)
    Oh I was quite serious when I inferred Trent thinks of me when betwixt the sheets. Not that I blame him - shows excellent taste on his part - I do too. Hence why I've always insisted on a mirror on the ceiling, so I could watch myself rather than whoever I was with - always such an intoxicating and alluring sight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    Seriously give it up. It is Bombshell. So much wasted time on a pointless discussion. Storyboard says Bombshell. We see Bombshell turn into Cyclonus. The seeker at the back (clearly Skywarp) was a useless seeker anyway so he can go on his way to oblivion. Bombshell = Cyclonus. Debate over.
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    And Rumble is red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMarginal View Post
    LOL, I can't tell if you're delirious or just plain lying. Takes some of the credence out of pretty much every other statement you've ever made... just quietly.


    I've never seen so many self righteous, virtue signalling, headless muppets running around in circles before.
    Points to Trevor for an interesting head cannon. I don't see what the point of bringing up things like earlier versions of a script or toy catalogues or even future episodes of the TV show has to do with the content of the film?

    Star Wars movie spoiler
    Is there a discussion as to the identity of the old smuggler guy that gets skewered by Kylo Ren in the Star Wars movies? no, I didn't think so, is there a version of the script where it's someone else? maybe but it's irrelevant because it's Han Solo that cops it in the film.

    Back to Transformers.
    Is it bombshell? it looks like bombshell, is sound like bombshell and it tastes like bombshell, so it's probably bombshell, it even quacks like bombshell. And yes it's Cyclonus, not his Armada. Sure there's no up, down left or right in space, but there is still perspective and relative orientation. From the perspective of the Camera/Audience, it's Bombshell who is the primary focus of the shot, being introduced as Cyclonus.

    So, what about all the future appearances of 'bombshell' who's to say they weren't originally a clone and bombshell transferred his consciousness before being ousted from Astrotrain, or maybe the clone was a 'premium' clone and just took on his position as the new bombshell once the original was out of the picture.

    This nonsense about the characters fitting better the other way around. Your assuming that Unicron allowed some semblance of the original characters personality to remain. Perhaps that was only done for Megatron/Galvatron.
    What of the suffering irony for Skywarp to now be forced to be subservient to a lowly Insecticon for the remainder of his existence, perhaps Unicron gained some sick enjoyment out of this suffering he caused.
    Much the same that it was always a brutal irony that Megatron relied on his least trusted and liked Lieutenant to use him in his alt mode.
    There is also no proving that Cyclonus' Armarda wasn't many characters; all clones of him, just that they were never shown on the screen again. Much the same if there was a jettison of dead weight from Astrotrain, there would have been many more near dead decepticons relieved of duty than those actually shown. Not everything in a movie has to happen on screen, to expect so is to expect to be pandered to at every turn (here's a participation ribbon), it can often be loosely implied with primary characters being shown to represent the many offscreen characters.

    Bombshell became Cyclonus and Skywarp amongst others became his Armarda of nameless troops, never to be given a speaking role again.

    good chat.
    Well done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KELPIE View Post
    Question:

    How many people are fighting for Skywarp or Bombshell because they had that toy as a kid?
    I've had both since I was a kid, so... <shrugs>

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    So I did a little more digging and as it turns out it is likley the case that we were all correct! Both Bombshell and Skywarp become Cyclonus as they merged into the one bot. Kinda surprised by that outcome but I guess it does work.

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