Interesting, rare and sometimes cheap ebay items.

[5FDP]

how does one determine if it is pre rub anway.....

The trademark symbol above the final 'S' in the Transformers logo is a 'TM' instead of an '(R)'. This is because Hasbro had not yet registered the trademark at the time these toys were manufactured.

There are some other differences but the above is the main one and easily distinguishable.

[heroic_decepticon]

Woke up to bid today, but refrained cos I thought that there were some non legit bids that were driving up the price... Oh well

[Vector Prime]

Transformers Classics Diaclone Custom OPTIMUS PRIME

Love the description:

This is a classics Optimus Prime done up in Diaclone colours. I made this guy a while ago using parts from a KO Black Prime, Optimus and Ultra Magnus.

At least he's admitted to using KO parts

[Sky Shadow]

What exactly makes those 'Diaclone colours'?

[Hursticon]

What exactly makes those 'Diaclone colours'?

I agree dude, what's Diaclone about that?
Seems this guy destroyed several toys to make an even crappier toy.

[KaRNiV8L PRiME]

The highest bid that wasn't him shill bidding was actually $35. So I would have won it at $36. $160 is a 400% increase on what he would actually have sold it for.

Member Id: t***i( 58) AU $20.51

Same Shill bidder won again lol. Just nobody stupid enough to bid against this fraud

[Sky Shadow]

Member Id: t***i( 58) AU $20.51

Same Shill bidder won again lol. Just nobody stupid enough to bid against this fraud

I have reported them 'both' for shill bidding.

[UltraMarginal]

Member Id: t***i( 58) AU $20.51

Same Shill bidder won again lol. Just nobody stupid enough to bid against this fraud

I'm just a little confused having just picked up the end of this conversation, but how can you tell if there are shill bidders in an auction?

[Sky Shadow]

I'm just a little confused having just picked up the end of this conversation, but how can you tell if there are shill bidders in an auction?

1. The bidder usually only bids in one person's auctions.
2. They bid a high amount which drags up other people's bids, then after the auction the seller offers 'another' identical item to the other bidders.
3. The bidder keeps bidding on the same items even after they've already won one previously.
4. Common sense.

It happens a lot, but eBay almost never does anything about it.

[UltraMarginal]

1. The bidder usually only bids in one person's auctions.
2. They bid a high amount which drags up other people's bids, then after the auction the seller offers 'another' identical item to the other bidders.
3. The bidder keeps bidding on the same items even after they've already won one previously.
4. Common sense.

It happens a lot, but eBay almost never does anything about it.

Wow, I'm not sure that I've ever come across it before, I always bid what I'm prepared to spend and leave it at that. I do remember a few years ago people scamming with electronic drumkits, I did report some and now there are hardly any on eBay at all.