iGear reveals PP03E - MP Dirge

[SharkyMcShark]

This may become the catalyst. Who knows. All I know, is HasTak needs to release the Coneheads as MP, because obviously the fandom want them. And primarily, it's the fans that buy these.

Well see that's the thing that rubs me the wrong way about this release.

With their Faith leader, copying MP Prime and downsizing it is a dick move in itself but Prime had been released a lot of times. Whereas this is now moving into areas that HasTak might be going into in the future.

Which sets a dangerous precedent if they let it go.

I'm not saying OMGZ MP LIEN RUINED or similar but it doesn't sit right that they've gone from copying stuff that exists to (while still copying HasTak designs and engineering) making official Transformers characters that HasTak may make in the future.

I just don't think the 'well maybe if Hasbro gave us what we wanted this wouldn't happen' excuse holds water here.

[Deceptic_Optic]

Well see that's the thing that rubs me the wrong way about this release.

With their Faith leader, copying MP Prime and downsizing it is a dick move in itself but Prime had been released a lot of times. Whereas this is now moving into areas that HasTak might be going into in the future.

Which sets a dangerous precedent if they let it go.

I'm not saying OMGZ MP LIEN RUINED or similar but it doesn't sit right that they've gone from copying stuff that exists to (while still copying HasTak designs and engineering) making official Transformers characters that HasTak may make in the future.

I just don't think the 'well maybe if Hasbro gave us what we wanted this wouldn't happen' excuse holds water here.

lol stop your whining...lol *peace* for primus sake id buy! it to me its not a KO at all since HASTAk dont have it yet.

[1AZRAEL1]

lol stop your whining...lol *peace* for primus sake id buy! it to me its not a KO at all since HASTAk dont have it yet.

Just a remoulded smaller version of the seekers that they have released

[Deceptic_Optic]

Just a remoulded smaller version of the seekers that they have released

yup...not listening and still not a KO...lol

[1AZRAEL1]

yup...not listening and still not a KO...lol

Exactly, KO are of existing figures lol, this is kinda new.

[SharkyMcShark]

lol stop your whining...lol *peace* for primus sake id buy! it to me its not a KO at all since HASTAk dont have it yet.

Who used the word knock off?

Anyway whether HasTak have done it or not is irrelevant. That's a similar argument to the popular yet misguided 'if they gave us what we wanted' argument. It's HasTaks mold, HasTaks engineering. It belongs to them and they can do what they want with it - whether that includes releasing a Masterpiece Dirge or not.

[kup]

I am not for what IGear is doing. Releasing this Dirge and hinting on a following Thrust and Ramjet have now negated what could have been a very possible official TakaraTomy releases in the near future.

Unlike the use of long abandoned 1980s concept drawings that don't have a chance in hell of ever being used and realized into a toy, IGear has grabbed a still financially viable mold from an ongoing existing line and beat the legit company in releasing a viable re-mold that may actually have been within their forthcoming plans.

[bruticus]

ermm... for those that are bagging igear, you should understand that igear did not make these. Partner Products did, hence the PP03 number...
igear are just selling them.

anyways, im curious to know why this thread was moved to the KO section??
last i checked, HasTakTom has not released any of the MP coneheads.
so... they are a KO of what, exactly?

Igear's website pics even says that it is based on designs by the TF customiser "wheeljack". To me, this thing is a Custom TF project but has been mass produced so that more people around the world can own one. Heck it was probably made using genuine Hasbro MP starscream/skywarp parts for all we know....

[griffin]

I didn't think anyone was bagging igear.

I moved it here because it was suggested that they were re-producing the entire MP toy, not just selling add-on parts. If they are replicating (pirating) any or all parts of an existing TFs toy, then it is just like any other KO.

If they are only providing add-on parts, or are buying MP Starscream toys and turning them into Dirge, then this will be re-located into the Unlicensed section.

Is there anyway of knowing yet if this is a full reproduction (like the mini MP Optimus), or a mass-customising of MP Starscream toys?

[kup]

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Is there anyway of knowing yet if this is a full reproduction (like the mini MP Optimus), or a mass-customising of MP Starscream toys?

I seriously doubt they are going through the expense and effort of purchasing and customizing MP Starscream toys to make this given their history.

They are replicating most of the mold and then modifying it to suit the unreleased MP conehead seeker character but 95% of the actual mold remains an unlicensed replica.