Bay to do TMNT

[5FDP]

I'll still watch it, and if it's any good I'll watch it again and if it isn't I wont.

+1

I wanna see the fanboy rage when Bay announces a MOTU movie

If people are seriously this pissed off about a TMNT Bay movie, I'd hate to see what you're all like when you really have something to be pissed off about. It's called perspective people - get some

[kup]

+1

I wanna see the fanboy rage when Bay announces a MOTU movie

If people are seriously this pissed off about a TMNT Bay movie, I'd hate to see what you're all like when you really have something to be pissed off about. It's called perspective people - get some

Just because you are unhappy with the direction of a movie about a franchise you are fond of doesn't mean that one has "lost perspective".

[kristofferrer]

EDIT - ooh, maybe we could have a TF VS TMNT&A crossover! Then there could be twice as many aliens to ignore in favour of the US Army!

LOL

here's a favourite of mine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s

[GoktimusPrime]

Peter Laird has now weighed into this discussion!

[Bartrim]

+1

I wanna see the fanboy rage when Bay announces a MOTU movie

If people are seriously this pissed off about a TMNT Bay movie, I'd hate to see what you're all like when you really have something to be pissed off about. It's called perspective people - get some

LOL. Michael Bay has the power!!!!!!!

I agree about the whole perspective thing. To be honest I'm not too thrilled about the whole alien thing but I haven't uttered one expletive over the situation because like you said there are worse things in life to be upset about. I'll just wait for the end result.

[kup]

Peter Laird has now weighed into this discussion!

Hopefully Bay will not 'ghost direct' and make this into 'Tenage Alien Ninja Turtles: Revenge of the Shredder' or 'Dark of Dimension X'.

If it was any other person involved with this film, I would have given more of a benefit of the doubt but this is Michael Bay who we are talking about here.

[GoktimusPrime]

<removes fanboy goggles>

When you think about it, the original origin story of the turtles is pretty ridiculous. Four pet turtles drop into a sewer and swim in radioactive goo that does more than just mutate them -- it evolves them into these anthropomorphic humanoid turtle things. Oh, and a rat who happens to know ninjutsu because his owner was a ninja master and the rat copied his master's katas (cos ya know, imitating forms alone will teach you mastery in a martial art ). W h a t ? ? Mind you, the 80s cartoon's Splinter origin where he was the ninja master who had his genes crossed with a sewer rat makes more sense insofar as why he knows ninjutsu and can teach it (the biological side on the other hand is just as ridiculous, if not even more so (-_-)).

If you look at it from the POV of someone who knows nothing about ninja turtles... it's a lot to swallow. It might work for a comic book, kid's cartoon and kid's movies, but if you want to "mature" it and expand it for a wider audience, then it might need to be tweaked. Aliens and mythological creatures is a more convenient/plausible excuse because they can be almost anything and you don't need to create an excuse of why they look like that. Why are they giant humanoid animals? Cos they're aliens.

But the problem of making them aliens creates a new set of issues.
1/ Are they still mutants? If everyone from their planet looks like humanoid animals, then isn't that just normal for them? What's that? They're lactose intolerant?? Okay, they're mutants then.
2/ The concept of being teenagers is a rather humancentric concept, particularly based on a base 10 counting system (because humans have 10 fingers - the 6 fingered Sontarans in Doctor Who use a 6-base counting system; so it stands to reason that 6 fingered alien turtles would be more like to use a 6-base numeric system wouldn't it?) Teenagers for humans represent the transition from juveniles to adulthood, whereas marine turtles can take decades before reaching physical maturity (which isn't too surprising considering that many species can live for over 100 years).
3/ How are they ninjas? Don't tell me that their planet just happens to have a martial art identical to Ninjutsu and they just happen to call their practitioners ninjas. Oh, and they happen to wield Japanese peasant weapons. Unless: (a) they learn ninjutsu after arriving on Earth, or (b) a human just refers to them as ninjas because that's what it looks like to them (kinda like how "Superman" was a name given to Kal-El by Lois Lane - it wasn't originally his idea). But then... what's with the bandana-masks?? I've never quite understood why the ninja turtles hide their faces. But I think the cartoon explained it as Splinter^the audience being able to tell them apart easier. (although originally they all wore red bandanas)

[Bartrim]

<removes fanboy goggles>

When you think about it, the original origin story of the turtles is pretty ridiculous. Four pet turtles drop into a sewer and swim in radioactive goo that does more than just mutate them -- it evolves them into these anthropomorphic humanoid turtle things. Oh, and a rat who happens to know ninjutsu because his owner was a ninja master and the rat copied his master's katas (cos ya know, imitating forms alone will teach you mastery in a martial art ). W h a t ? ? Mind you, the 80s cartoon's Splinter origin where he was the ninja master who had his genes crossed with a sewer rat makes more sense insofar as why he knows ninjutsu and can teach it (the biological side on the other hand is just as ridiculous, if not even more so (-_-)).

If you look at it from the POV of someone who knows nothing about ninja turtles... it's a lot to swallow. It might work for a comic book, kid's cartoon and kid's movies, but if you want to "mature" it and expand it for a wider audience, then it might need to be tweaked. Aliens and mythological creatures is a more convenient/plausible excuse because they can be almost anything and you don't need to create an excuse of why they look like that. Why are they giant humanoid animals? Cos they're aliens.

But the problem of making them aliens creates a new set of issues.
1/ Are they still mutants? If everyone from their planet looks like humanoid animals, then isn't that just normal for them? What's that? They're lactose intolerant?? Okay, they're mutants then.
2/ The concept of being teenagers is a rather humancentric concept, particularly based on a base 10 counting system (because humans have 10 fingers - the 6 fingered Sontarans in Doctor Who use a 6-base counting system; so it stands to reason that 6 fingered alien turtles would be more like to use a 6-base numeric system wouldn't it?) Teenagers for humans represent the transition from juveniles to adulthood, whereas marine turtles can take decades before reaching physical maturity (which isn't too surprising considering that many species can live for over 100 years).
3/ How are they ninjas? Don't tell me that their planet just happens to have a martial art identical to Ninjutsu and they just happen to call their practitioners ninjas. Oh, and they happen to wield Japanese peasant weapons. Unless: (a) they learn ninjutsu after arriving on Earth, or (b) a human just refers to them as ninjas because that's what it looks like to them (kinda like how "Superman" was a name given to Kal-El by Lois Lane - it wasn't originally his idea). But then... what's with the bandana-masks?? I've never quite understood why the ninja turtles hide their faces. But I think the cartoon explained it as Splinter^the audience being able to tell them apart easier. (although originally they all wore red bandanas)

I forgot aboout the rat mimicking his owners katas. Even though I've only got just over 2 years martial arts training under my belt I still majorly loled at this.

Thinking about your last paragraph. Do you think it would be feasable that they dont call themselves Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Maybe they think the are normal arrive on earth and by the way they look and behave a human coins the name? They look like mutant turtles who have awesome fighting skills that some uneducated (in martial arts) human generalises as ninja skills and they act abit immature like teens. Just throwing it out there.

[5FDP]

I don't recall aliens in the boardgame 'Battleship' but they're in the movie. Grrrr

[Jay-Tron]

Just noticed this thread. Ninja Turtles from space. Hmmm the idea dosen't blow my mind but I'll give it a chance if it does happen just for the sake of a different movie to watch...

Maybe the turtles can be chased to Earth by that pink brain thing from the old cartoon or something...