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    Ah yes overcome your fear of failure and anxiety attacks and start afresh by destroying all your suits.

    Yes, so when the aliens come back to invade Earth you'll be prepared this time, Stark!

    I have mixed emotions about this movie, I was glad they took the third-installment in a much more unique direction to that seen in most comic-book trilogies but such a uniqueness was so unexpected and different that it seemed so out of place tonally compared to the last two movies. I only felt amazed during the climactic battle when all the suits showed up but for the rest of the movie I was lightly-laughing uncomfortably at the joke scenes and was thinking more 'ok where is this going?' in a much more confused way.

    I think the best way to describe this film is that it is like a great example of reading a comic book, except done in a motion form. Comic books, unlike many comic-book movies are usually not bound to a hollywood formulaic method of storytelling and guidelines. That being said though, comic books from my experience have their own unique plot-pacing and can contain truly baffling elements of fiction which sometimes can amaze/confuse the readers - which is what exactly this movie did to me.

    I don't hate Iron Man 3, but I didn't love it either. I praise it for its bold direction in trying new things, but said things seemed so out of place and inconsistent to the previous two movies. It doesn't hold together well as a film, but holds greatly as a comic-book movie.

    I give it a low-Matinee. Worth watching in cinemas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWarp91 View Post
    I don't hate Iron Man 3, but I didn't love it either. I praise it for its bold direction in trying new things, but said things seemed so out of place and inconsistent to the previous two movies. It doesn't hold together well as a film, but holds greatly as a comic-book movie.
    You've got to remember for Iron Man that The Avengers was a sequel also, and the events of that movie changed a lot.

    Having it be to similar to 1 and 2 would've seemed to ignore that.

    Would've preferred more of the comic Extremis, but overall enjoyed what they did with it.

    Did Tony perfect it to assist with extracting the shrapnel he has needed the Arc for?! Seemed like it.

    Shane Black went on record long ago saying he wouldn't include the Mandarin as he saw it as nothing more than a racist Asian caricature, so I was surprised he was included in the film after all, hilarious reveal, I knew something was up with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gantz View Post
    You've got to remember for Iron Man that The Avengers was a sequel also, and the events of that movie changed a lot.

    Having it be to similar to 1 and 2 would've seemed to ignore that.
    Good point. It is now Marvel Phase Two by the way

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    I enjoyed the movie, but one question, was there a scene after the credits that gives us a clue on the next movie? I had to leave as soon as it ended and not sure did I miss anything.

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    Nah, it was seen with Banner as 'psychiatrist' listening to Tony's narration of the film and events, falling asleep at the very beginning because he isn't that kind of Doctor as he doesn't have the temperament for it LOL

    A scene I enjoyed as I thought they might ignore the great friendship between them.

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    I liked this film quite a lot, they managed to cleverly conceal the plot for just long enough to hold my interest. The sort of rebirth of Tony Stark at the end does away with some Iron Man's classic vulnerabilities, but if they want to continue making movies of decent quality they are going to have to try some new directions, so ultimately I'm ok with it.

    Nice cameo at the end.


    Aside from the awesome Avengers this was the best Marvel film for me since Iron Man 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ae-Evolution View Post
    I enjoyed the movie, but one question, was there a scene after the credits that gives us a clue on the next movie? I had to leave as soon as it ended and not sure did I miss anything.
    No - to me it was just a "here is an Avenger in the movie"....
    It didnt tie up to the next phase yet... but having said that I could be COMPLETELY wrong...

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    Maybe, just maybe the post-credits scene is just a snippet of what would be in used in the Avengers 2 and that all post-credit scenes for the Marvel Phase 2 movies would all join together ala Pulp Fiction with the intertwining of the different stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ae-Evolution View Post
    I enjoyed the movie, but one question, was there a scene after the credits that gives us a clue on the next movie? I had to leave as soon as it ended and not sure did I miss anything.
    It was for the 'science bros' fans. The two fangirls in our group will attest to that.

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    It would be a shame if the post-credit scenes don't relate to something, as it was the linking factor of the ones in the first movies (Ironman had Nick Fury introduced as the underlying link, Hulk had Ironman linked to it (Stark), Ironman 2 had Thor linked to it (hammer), Thor had Captain America linked to it (cube), Captain America linked to the Avengers (a trailer for that movie), and Avengers looked to have the Galactic Guardians linked to it (Thanos))... so it would be a shame if the post-credit scenes now are just random bits "sticky-taped" to the end. If there were another Hulk movie coming out soon, it would have made sense like the clues from the first movies... but meh.

    I had never actually heard of the Mandarin before this movie, so had to do some reading up on it... and I agree, this movie should have just not used the name of the character if the writer/director didn't like the Asian connotation to the original character. It would be like Michael Bay using the character name of Megatron in the first movie as the name of the boombox Decepticon (Frenzy).
    He could have still used the character fully without worrying about offending anyone... The original character was created in a time when racial stereotypes for criminal characters was common because all the western propaganda during the cold war era made the unknown scary to the masses. Look at Star Trek, created in the 1960s at the height of the Cold War - Romulans/Russians were originally the militaristic main foe of the Federation/USA, while the Klingons/Chinese were the savage barbarians. (although, by the time the Soviet Union collapsed, the Klingons had become the fan-favourite race, so ended up being used as part of the "USSR collapse" metaphor in Star Trek 6)

    I hope that if there is another Iron Man movie, they might consider using the real Mandarin, if one exists, and his ten rings... because an origin story (of where the Rings came from) and being able to be virtually unbeatable with them would make it a decent challenge in a full-length movie.

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