Universe 2.0 - Repaints

[MV75]

I, and the TF Wiki disagree. Gestalts are a SUBSET of Combiners.

The pictures and Goks description lines up with what your link says, so you're not trying to argue with him are you?

[jaydisc]

The pictures and Goks description lines up with what your link says, so you're not trying to argue with him are you?

Actually, I interpreted Gok's imagery and comments as him saying that the other posts here that refer to Superion or Bruticus as a "Combiner" are incorrect, as they should be referred to as "Gestalts".

I also interpreted gok as saying they were different, which I disagree, as one is a subset of the other.

How did you interpret it?

Moreover, Gok, what did you mean?

[MV75]

I interpreted it exactly as his pictures.

You realise the top two form things right? A camera and a ship, and the bottom ones form a whole new robot.

Combiner, Gesault. Not a hard nut to crack.

[jaydisc]

You realise the top two form things right? A camera and a ship, and the bottom ones form a whole new robot.

I sure do . It seems to me that he's trying to communicate there's a difference between the two.

I interpreted it exactly as his pictures.

What does that mean?

Anyway, might be best if we let Gok say what Gok meant.

[MV75]

There is a difference. I can't believe I have to use your own evidence against you.

Ok, combiners:

Combiner
As above, a member of a group of Transformers who assemble into a composite form. Also refers to that composite form itself.

EG: Reflector.


Gesaults:

Gestalt
Fan-terminology for a certain class of combiners -- generally used only for "big robot" combiners with emergent personalities.

EG: Devastator.

I hope that puts us on the same page now.


But, personally I call them combiners no matter what. That is my personal belief, if they combine, well, they are combiners.

[jaydisc]

OK, but you have to promise me... this is the last time

Gestalt
Fan-terminology for a certain class of combiners

EG: Bruticus or Superion

Combiner
As above, a member of a group of Transformers who assemble into a composite form.

EG: Bruticus or Superion

While Gestalt is a fine term to use to refer to Bruticus or Superion, SO IS "Combiner"!

Subset. Subset! Say it..... Subset!

Now leave me alone and let Gok speak for himself.

[Paulbot]

This arguement has been had before (it was me and Goktimus disagreeing last time) do we really need to retread it?

[MV75]

Subset? That's just your incorrect use of a word, because how can bruticus be a subset of bruticus?

I think the term you are after, which we both have quoted, is "Fan terminology".

As for Combiner being fine to use, well heck, what did I say about what I call them all? Why you want to fight on that point, I don't know. Is there an invisible war I'm not aware of going on?

Yes Paulbot, you had your turn, now it's ours. You don't need to join in if you don't want to.