How to get MP Megatron shipped to Oz?

[auskinglj]

I had A plastic pellet gun from the 80's, didn't work it was my grandad's I kept it after He passed,police seen it in my house, got arrested ,Queens Council + Solicitor + lot of $$$ later,got a 2 year good behaviour bond plus a bunch of fines! And now I have an Unauthorised possession of a firearm on my record because I had no idea a toy from the 80's Could Cause so much Grief

POLICE AND THE COURTS DONT TAKE FIREARMS LAWS LIGHTLY,NO TOY/COLLECTABLE IS WORTH WHAT I WENT THROUGH

Section 7(1) provides “A person must not possess or use a prohibited firearm or pistol unless the person is authorised to do so by a licence or permit.” The maximum penalty is 14 years imprisonment.

[GoktimusPrime]

All the more reason to get a permit. If a police officer came into my house, he would see the following:
+ My permit - stored in a folder with my TF books in my TF room. I can easily produce it.
+ Gun TFs stored in a locked display unit.
+ Locks on my TF room's window and door. As my TF room is an upstairs room, I am not required to fit security bars on the window (but I would be if it were a ground floor room).

The initial cost* and paper work of getting a permit and legally compliant storage was a pain in the Astrotrain, but after that it's relatively simple in terms of renewing the permit once every so many years. Much like any other form of permit/licence, they send you a reminder letter when your permit is about to expire to give you the option to renew it. The funny thing with my last renewal was that I had it signed by a colleague who's also a Justice of the Peace, who had a good chuckle over the whole thing.

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*And remember that we are exempt from having to pay the $127 Clause 36 Weapons Regulation fee! I had to purchase the display unit, lock for the unit, and new door handle with lock for my TF room (thankfully the window already had a lock); and that was the most time consuming and financially expensive exercise -- and you only need to do it once -- but the cost of the permit (including renewal) is free.

[jazzcomp]

I had A plastic pellet gun from the 80's, didn't work it was my grandad's I kept it after He passed,police seen it in my house, got arrested ,Queens Council + Solicitor + lot of $$$ later,got a 2 year good behaviour bond plus a bunch of fines! And now I have an Unauthorised possession of a firearm on my record because I had no idea a toy from the 80's Could Cause so much Grief

POLICE AND THE COURTS DONT TAKE FIREARMS LAWS LIGHTLY,NO TOY/COLLECTABLE IS WORTH WHAT I WENT THROUGH

Section 7(1) provides “A person must not possess or use a prohibited firearm or pistol unless the person is authorised to do so by a licence or permit.” The maximum penalty is 14 years imprisonment.

How is a toy a prohibited firearm?

[DELTAprime]

How is a toy a prohibited firearm?

Depends what state you are in. NSW has thought since the 80's that toys are guns.

Here in Queensland after reading some of the police web site I wonder if they even classify toys as replica guns, I can't find any reference to toys other than saying an item that is not a toy is classified as a weapon.

[auskinglj]

How is a toy a prohibited firearm?

That was why i kept it, i thought it's just a toy(looked like any toy gun from the 80's),I never took it out side didn't show it to people just kept it as a memento on a shelf inside its tattered original box on a shelf in my house,but it was Classed as a replica because it was black and had a mechanism to fire ammunition(plastic pellets)even though it didn't work,it had nothing to distinguish it from a real firearm, Police said I could have used to threaten/rob someone and as such it was a prohibited firearm

[griffin]

Replica weapons is usually a category in criminal codes as well, to refer to props or toys that could fool people into thinking it is a real gun... as it is the intention behind the use of it that is just as important as the firing of a real gun.
(intention to commit a crime, as well as the commission of a crime)

[Dinkydarth]

do repainted Nerf Guns fit in the same category? How about ones painted to look futuristic/sci fi?

[BigTransformerTrev]

Replica weapons is usually a category in criminal codes as well, to refer to props or toys that could fool people into thinking it is a real gun... as it is the intention behind the use of it that is just as important as the firing of a real gun.
(intention to commit a crime, as well as the commission of a crime)

'Mens Rea' - guilty mind, as well as 'Actus Reaus' - guilty act.


Whaddya know, I remembered something from my old law days

[Bidoofdude]

Replica weapons is usually a category in criminal codes as well, to refer to props or toys that could fool people into thinking it is a real gun... as it is the intention behind the use of it that is just as important as the firing of a real gun.
(intention to commit a crime, as well as the commission of a crime)

I imagined a middle-aged man walking into a bank with comically oversized MP Megatrons and holding it up.

[griffin]

MP Megatron isn't as oversized to a real gun as some people are thinking.
A comparison photo was posted up when the toy came out, and it was as close in size to a real handgun as Gen1 Megatron.

I can't seem to find the photo now, but these were some photos I could find with a google search...
Gen1 Megatron next to a real Walther P-38, which looks about 30% bigger than the Gen1 toy.
Gen1 Megatron with Masterpiece Megatron, which only looks to be about 60% bigger than the Gen1 toy.
As such, the real gun would be close to midway between the two Transformers guns.
The wiki page for the real gun says it is 216mm long.
The Gen1 Megatron is 172mm long, and MP Megatron is 280mm long.
That makes it 4cm between Gen1 and the real gun, and 6cm between MP and the real gun.
Not that much difference... and close enough for both Transformers toys to be classed as "replica" to fool someone behind a counter in not questioning if it is real.
(a replica gun is just as dangerous as an unloaded gun - are you going to challenge the offender to prove it is a loaded or lethal weapon?)


BTW, in the second link, four of those Transformers toys are considered replica weapons, as they only have to be close enough to fool people at a glance to count as "replica".