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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzcomp View Post
    How is a toy a prohibited firearm?
    That was why i kept it, i thought it's just a toy(looked like any toy gun from the 80's),I never took it out side didn't show it to people just kept it as a memento on a shelf inside its tattered original box on a shelf in my house,but it was Classed as a replica because it was black and had a mechanism to fire ammunition(plastic pellets)even though it didn't work,it had nothing to distinguish it from a real firearm, Police said I could have used to threaten/rob someone and as such it was a prohibited firearm

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    Replica weapons is usually a category in criminal codes as well, to refer to props or toys that could fool people into thinking it is a real gun... as it is the intention behind the use of it that is just as important as the firing of a real gun.
    (intention to commit a crime, as well as the commission of a crime)

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    do repainted Nerf Guns fit in the same category? How about ones painted to look futuristic/sci fi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    Replica weapons is usually a category in criminal codes as well, to refer to props or toys that could fool people into thinking it is a real gun... as it is the intention behind the use of it that is just as important as the firing of a real gun.
    (intention to commit a crime, as well as the commission of a crime)
    'Mens Rea' - guilty mind, as well as 'Actus Reaus' - guilty act.


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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    Replica weapons is usually a category in criminal codes as well, to refer to props or toys that could fool people into thinking it is a real gun... as it is the intention behind the use of it that is just as important as the firing of a real gun.
    (intention to commit a crime, as well as the commission of a crime)
    I imagined a middle-aged man walking into a bank with comically oversized MP Megatrons and holding it up.
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    MP Megatron isn't as oversized to a real gun as some people are thinking.
    A comparison photo was posted up when the toy came out, and it was as close in size to a real handgun as Gen1 Megatron.

    I can't seem to find the photo now, but these were some photos I could find with a google search...
    Gen1 Megatron next to a real Walther P-38, which looks about 30% bigger than the Gen1 toy.
    Gen1 Megatron with Masterpiece Megatron, which only looks to be about 60% bigger than the Gen1 toy.
    As such, the real gun would be close to midway between the two Transformers guns.
    The wiki page for the real gun says it is 216mm long.
    The Gen1 Megatron is 172mm long, and MP Megatron is 280mm long.
    That makes it 4cm between Gen1 and the real gun, and 6cm between MP and the real gun.
    Not that much difference... and close enough for both Transformers toys to be classed as "replica" to fool someone behind a counter in not questioning if it is real.
    (a replica gun is just as dangerous as an unloaded gun - are you going to challenge the offender to prove it is a loaded or lethal weapon?)


    BTW, in the second link, four of those Transformers toys are considered replica weapons, as they only have to be close enough to fool people at a glance to count as "replica".

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    For anyone wondering if hold-ups use replica weapons (because it is cheaper and easier to buy than a real gun), a google search comes up with quite a few... and there are probably a lot more that are never known, if they don't get caught.

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    How many of those are transformers toys?

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    Sooooo who needs a mp5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by auskinglj View Post
    That was why i kept it, i thought it's just a toy(looked like any toy gun from the 80's),I never took it out side didn't show it to people just kept it as a memento on a shelf inside its tattered original box on a shelf in my house,but it was Classed as a replica because it was black and had a mechanism to fire ammunition(plastic pellets)even though it didn't work,it had nothing to distinguish it from a real firearm, Police said I could have used to threaten/rob someone and as such it was a prohibited firearm
    Pics would be good. Some quotes- though I don't know if they are valid till today.
    The NSW Firearms act 1996 states an imitation firearm does not include objects produced and identified as a children’s toy.

    The NSW Police firearms registry says a toy is distinguished from an imitation firearm by the packaging, targeted sale market (ie. sold in a toy store, marked ‘‘for ages 3+’’ etc), the materials it is is made from, its general appearance or how it functions.
    If an imitation looks substantially like the real thing, a permit is required to own it and it has to be stored just like a real gun.

    If it has been produced as a toy and if it is marketed as a toy, then the above does not apply.

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