STL's Journey into BWs

[GoktimusPrime]

That's a bit different. That's like "transforms from robot to truck and back" that we had in G1.

Although Razorbeast and Cheetor aren't perfect replicas of their beast forms, if you look at Razorbeast you know that it's meant to be a boar. If you look at Cheetor it's very obvious that it's meant to be a cheetah.

Look at Beast Machines Skydive... its form is so obscure looking that even Hasbro themselves were confused and erroneously mislabelled its beast form on its card!

Let's play "guess the beast mode" with BM Skydive!


Is it supposed to be a:
a/ Pterodactyl
b/ Pteranodon
c/ Eagle
d/ Quetzalcoatlus
e/ Pelican

[Gutsman Heavy]

I vote for Quetzacoatl

[GoktimusPrime]

Oops, that should read "Quetzalcoatlus" - which is a species of pterosaur. Quetzalcoatl is a God. My bad.

[Tommy K]

They did that with the original BW toys too.

gosh do i miss that packaging, it reminds me back in the day where you could go and buy them at the stores lol

Is it supposed to be a:
a/ Pterodactyl
b/ Pteranodon
c/ Eagle
d/ Quetzalcoatlus
e/ Pelican

PELICAN pelicanpelicanpelican. i enjoyed that figure for the 3 hours i had him for, but i enjoyed rhinox more, thanx guys

[Pulse]

gosh do i miss that packaging, it reminds me back in the day where you could go and buy them at the stores lol

That artwork/packaging is ssssso purty! (it's a shame that you can't open it without ruining the artwork... )

[GoktimusPrime]

Wanna bet?

[STL]

Other Victories

Very bad episode. I've watched this twice now and other than a toy selling exercise, this episode is among the worst in BWs. Can someone please explain to me the gimmick plot device about the Vok? It takes itself way too seriously for what is a contrived plot mechanism. Bad comedy.

[Paulbot]

"At least this time Waspinator has company"

I didn't like what they did to Airazor and Tigatron, and judging by the follow up fiction undoing it, others didn't either. The Vok are just not developed enough, and although there's explanations out there that the Vok are the Swarm from G2 comics or the future of humanity, or both, I just don't like them much at all. They were much more interesting when they were an unexplained mystery.

[GoktimusPrime]

What? You mean you still haven't finished watching Beast Wars yet?!

Again, remember that they were taking a story that was intended to span for another series (season four) and compressed it into the final episodes because they'd already written and planned most of season three by time Hasbro told Mainframe to wrap things up by the end of Season Three and finish the series.

Given those less-than-ideal conditions you can understand why the story inevitably suffered as a result. The same thing happened at the end of the US G1 cartoon - "The Rebirth" was originally written to be a five-parter but well after Dave Wise had written the original treatment, Hasbro told Sunbow to change it to a three-parter and demanded that they showcase a whole bunch of toys within the first episode (hence why you have so many "hi then bye" appearances, e.g.: Punch/Counterpunch, Clones, Sixshot etc).

Hasbro dictated which episode a Transformer would appear or disappear and they would approve the character cast for each ep. So it would've been Hasbro that insisted on Tigerhawk appearing at the end - and of course, Tigatron and Airazor had been tied to the Vok since Season 2, so introducing Tigerhawk meant that they had to rapidly accelerate the Vok arc.

Yes, the latter half of Season 3 is very much a rush job - but it was due to reasons beyond Mainframe's control and they were desperately trying to tie up loose ends as ordered by Hasbro.

[STL]

"At least this time Waspinator has company"

I didn't like what they did to Airazor and Tigatron, and judging by the follow up fiction undoing it, others didn't either. The Vok are just not developed enough, and although there's explanations out there that the Vok are the Swarm from G2 comics or the future of humanity, or both, I just don't like them much at all. They were much more interesting when they were an unexplained mystery.

The Vok as descendants of the Swarm? That's a long bow... and you've got to be trying really hard there to even draw a link. I just can't even get over why in Season 1 they seem preoccupied with preserving the environment and blah and then now progress to being the gate keepers of all time and space?

And it might have been a rush job but that single episode is below the crappiness of some of the 1st season's worst which I did not think could be replicated. Hell, I just could not believe how two year old the whole plot device was. It took very little imagination and the whole episode then brings in the whole convenant, mystical angle that I honestly for the life of me could not even accept if it wasn't rushed. It's just a WTH and there are a hundred better ways they could have introduced the character of Tigerhawk.

I keep hearing the "you've got to understand" line when it comes to the end of Season 3 but no excuse could be made for such lame writing.