Are we becoming jaded or more discerning as Transformer fans?

[Sinnertwin]

For a serious discussion, Yes I did complaint about plastic wheels as we were referring to a premium product. Yes, I did indicate about diecast as well. And I did indcate I was over it too.

You seem to be someone who can tell people off what you ONLY feel is right in your opinion. You pretty much have to suck it up when I am still on here. As far as what people say here on the threads if you sick of hearing it you can change your settings in your User CP. For me, I am happy to hear good and bad of anything here.

peace out. I don't waste my time with people who only view one sided opinions.

And you'll have to do exactly the same.
I'll be seeing you around, champ.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Ok, so it all stops I will respectfully remind people of the original topic of the thread:

Are we becoming jaded and ungrateful as a fanbase? Or are we simply more discerning consumers of products and patrons of the franchise?’


To bring it back even further to the original point of the thread I’ll pose a question - Out of interest Drifand, do you consider yourself a Discerning or a Jaded TF fan?

The dictionary definition of Jaded:

Bored or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having had too much of something. Made dull, apathetic, or cynical by experience or by surfeit.

I think the following quote sums up that attitude nicely:

This doesn't mean many cant criticise a movie that looks like going to its doom before is being made.
Nobody said anything about special. If the movie sucks and the pattern is going to be suck to be, then get ready for that.
One thing for sure, I have not bought any movie tf toys. The fact that anyone who have seen them, they are entitled to state their opinion about how it went and what they wish to see what went wrong and what they liked. It is not new to see people criticising a movie, toy before it is even made.

If we go by the dictionary definition of Jaded then your constant criticism of different facets of the TF brand (the movies, the Legends game etc) have certainly shown cynicism. And the fact that you have been going on about how you hated the last movie well over a year after it was released and are now in many different threads are going on about how it’s (in your opinion) a fact that the next movie is going to suck a good two years before it’s even made has proven quite dull. Seems to be quite jaded overall.

I have no wish to single you out, but you seem to have chosen to make yourself the poster boy for this slant on the TF world which is why I am directing these queries to you.

I am interested in your response in how you view yourself as a Transformers fan – in other words discerning or jaded. I will ask, since I have had problems with debates with you in the past in other threads, that you stick to the topic please. If your responses are just going to be “The last movies sucked and the next one will suck” rather than pertaining to the topic at hand then perhaps take those particular rants elsewhere rather than derailing this thread further. Maybe you could start your own thread in the Movies section “Why I hated the movies and Bay and why the next one will suck” so you can put voice to your feelings there. Otherwise it will be interesting to get your perspective on this overall topic.

[1orion2many]

First time back in a long time and virtually the first thread I read has a pair of cranky old farts arguing on it and that's not a reference to age more a reference to the way you 2 were acting (I don't need to tell you which 2 do I)

[Trent]

First time back in a long time and virtually the first thread I read has a pair of cranky old farts arguing on it and that's not a reference to age more a reference to the way you 2 were acting (I don't need to tell you which 2 do I)

Welcome back! It's like you never left!!!

[1orion2many]

Yes I'm back after a forced life change

[liegeprime]

Yes I'm back after a forced life change

belated happy birthday by the way you old fart heheheheh...

[1orion2many]

belated happy birthday by the way you old fart heheheheh...

You too if I remember rightly and I'm not joking about that My memory is partly shot, Mostly not though lol

I'm actually very happy to celebrate another year, I'll never complain again about getting older as the alternative (Until science makes a youth serum) is a very unpleasant thought

[GoktimusPrime]

[drifand]

Well Trev I am not really a tf fan fan.

Straight to your answer I am discerning . You won't find me wondering in other tf toy thread other than mp line and just a handful of selection tf.

I do hate the fact that it feels like I am not entitled or welcome to speak of a negative side of a toy or anything in fact in discussion. For me taking both positive and negative comments make me have a broader idea about what is good about the toy and what is not so good.

Simply put if TT designed a bad looking Optimus prime, I will say it up front. I would not care if anyone here comes and say"how can you say that?" That's Optimus prime! Sorry I don't buy it just because this is a tf forum.

I have particular concerns with mp line and if they don't match up to my liking , I will spend money on other things and will not be a tf toy.

When people here do ask " how do you know that the movie suck before is even out in two years time" I didn't say it suck. I said is a skip for me for the cinema in particular. If you read carefully, I said it doesn't matter who is writing the story if Bay is directing. And it is easily assumed if he is directing it be the same format. I have further added that if it is someone else then it may be either worse or way better than the previous 3-4 episode while I actually enjoyed 1-2 more.

Based on the writer, I am Not prepared to be very surprised that I would like it. Again if you are going to say but nothing is written yet, that's not what I based upon in this judgement. Is based on all his previous work and I could disagree with some members if they liked one over another. Is like if we have an election tomorrow and I tell you now there Tony Abott and a whole new cabinet of ministers. And I am trying to say I don't like Tony Abbott and I don't care about the new cabinet of ministers. And you are going on about "but he has not even done his budget and speech blah blah blah" and that's where some missed the point. Sure I can be wrong about tf5, but I am tired of the style in placed and is now to a point that tf movies are not my priority as a must watch or die show.

I have not bashed bay tfs movies by far till is overly poor, they got a pass for me for the latest. I do not understand why when I am not happy about some of his work I get shot at. Because I am not bothered if bay is your number one or only one tf story movie maker. However I know I am not the only person who have concerns about how Bay has sort of spoiled the transformers I so call know.

To tell me I am not to watch tf5 because of my low expectations is really where I won't let you tell me how it is. End of the day is just an opinion, you don't have to agree nor be overly sensitive about it.

I am sure many would want to see a good movie and not an average one.

As for picking on toys, I am basically stating what it is and how it is. Don't rub on me saying I am whining over no rubber tyres as even as a non tf fan I had s g1 toy with rubber tyres . When I state it, is just a note on it, nothing more, as the debate was done to death and it is what it is.

I go as far as people seem to get shot down when they see a variant colour mp and say is milking and people seem to go on defence mode. Likewise for g1 colours and toon accuracy.

Truth is, it's what you like and you have an opinion.

Oh and btw the transformers legend game. It is because I know how addictive and money wasting it is, I was more concerned about members willing to fork out $500 just for a digital card. But yes it's non of my business.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Well Trev I am not really a tf fan fan.

Straight to your answer I am discerning . You won't find me wondering in other tf toy thread other than mp line and just a handful of selection tf.

Ok, there ya go. You feel you are discerning. Fair enough. Thank you for answering the question.


However I will remind you that you were asked to:

stick to the topic please.

The other 700+ words were not required. I had been quite proud of this thread and had even done some research and surveys for it beforehand. Now the last 3 pages of it are you ranting or arguing with Sinner . It's kinda wrecked it. You have had your say multiple times, that's enough now.