Ok, so it all stops I will respectfully remind people of the original topic of the thread:

Are we becoming jaded and ungrateful as a fanbase? Or are we simply more discerning consumers of products and patrons of the franchise?’


To bring it back even further to the original point of the thread I’ll pose a question - Out of interest Drifand, do you consider yourself a Discerning or a Jaded TF fan?

The dictionary definition of Jaded:

Bored or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having had too much of something. Made dull, apathetic, or cynical by experience or by surfeit.

I think the following quote sums up that attitude nicely:
Quote Originally Posted by drifand View Post
This doesn't mean many cant criticise a movie that looks like going to its doom before is being made.
Nobody said anything about special. If the movie sucks and the pattern is going to be suck to be, then get ready for that.
One thing for sure, I have not bought any movie tf toys. The fact that anyone who have seen them, they are entitled to state their opinion about how it went and what they wish to see what went wrong and what they liked. It is not new to see people criticising a movie, toy before it is even made.
If we go by the dictionary definition of Jaded then your constant criticism of different facets of the TF brand (the movies, the Legends game etc) have certainly shown cynicism. And the fact that you have been going on about how you hated the last movie well over a year after it was released and are now in many different threads are going on about how it’s (in your opinion) a fact that the next movie is going to suck a good two years before it’s even made has proven quite dull. Seems to be quite jaded overall.

I have no wish to single you out, but you seem to have chosen to make yourself the poster boy for this slant on the TF world which is why I am directing these queries to you.

I am interested in your response in how you view yourself as a Transformers fan – in other words discerning or jaded. I will ask, since I have had problems with debates with you in the past in other threads, that you stick to the topic please. If your responses are just going to be “The last movies sucked and the next one will suck” rather than pertaining to the topic at hand then perhaps take those particular rants elsewhere rather than derailing this thread further. Maybe you could start your own thread in the Movies section “Why I hated the movies and Bay and why the next one will suck” so you can put voice to your feelings there. Otherwise it will be interesting to get your perspective on this overall topic.