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DaptoDog
8th February 2020, 08:37 PM
Well that's two more Masterpiece releases I'll be paying no attention to.

Certainly not what was speculated. I'll get them but they're nowhere near the top of my list. The pic has a pretty good shot of Arcee and at first glance it's not wowing me. Will have better shots to look at tomorrow.

dirge
8th February 2020, 08:45 PM
I'll get them but they're nowhere near the top of my list. The pic has a pretty good shot of Arcee and at first glance it's not wowing me. Will have better shots to look at tomorrow.

I have no problem with them doing Arcee - heck given she's an animation-first character, she's a natural fit for Takara's decent cartoon-centric designing. I really just want more 84/85 characters, though, so I'll pass.

High_Q
8th February 2020, 09:20 PM
MP-51 Arcee is a pleasant surprise. From this image on TFW2005 (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/arcee-jpg.28529673/), the alt-mode looks animation accurate and amazing, and apart from the low chest, the bot mode also great. However, the 'display stand' behind her right leg had better not be an integral part of the toy itself.

Paulbot
8th February 2020, 09:27 PM
I like big backs and I can not lie

DELTAprime
8th February 2020, 09:52 PM
I bet once I see Arcee's price I'll give her a wide berth like I did Convoy V3.

Hopefully, Tigatron is a similar price to Cheetor.

I'm buying the Beast Wars MPs since I've always wanted that season 1 BW cast of toys, but the original toys really suck in many cases. Given there are only 13 (?) characters in season 1 of BW I think my wallet can stand up to that punishment.

DELTAprime
16th February 2020, 10:28 AM
The previously mentioned unannounced WFC E Alicon and a new WFC E Arcee have been listed at Amazon UK.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/02/15/transformers-wfc-earthrise-arcee-and-quintesson-allicon-listings-405262

griffin
19th February 2020, 10:48 PM
Probably less of a rumour now, but there still are no official listings or proper product pages at a retailer yet (this is only a product listing that is alleged to be from Target in America (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/02/18/studio-series-skipjack-cliffjumper-blitzwing-and-more-confirmed-405380)).

Studio Series TF2 (Deluxe?) Soundwave (which would be the satellite version), TF6 Deluxe Cliffjumper (hopefully a new Cybertronian mould and not just a redeco of one of the Bumblebees), TF6 Voyager Blitzwing, TF3 Deluxe Topspin.

I would expect that the New York Toyfair this weekend will reveal a few of these upcoming Studio Series toys.

DELTAprime
20th February 2020, 12:41 AM
I would expect that the New York Toyfair this weekend will reveal a few of these upcoming Studio Series toys.

Oh god, that's this weekend? Thank's for the heads up. I love seeing all the new stuff at Toy Fair even for lines I don't collect like Power Rangers.

griffin
22nd February 2020, 06:19 PM
Another listing that is said to be from a store computer search, this time ToysRUs in Canada (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/new-listings-via-toys-r-us-canada-inventory.1189141/)...




Generations Clones 2-Pack 477877
Generations Selects Hubcap 479608
Deluxe Exhaust 458783
WFC Deluxe Arcee 472047
WFC Deluxe Smokescreen 472050
Deluxe Greasepit 477882 ("modulator"/Micromaster base)
Micromaster Spy Patrol 477912 (possibly the rumoured 4-pack)
Seeker Thrust 380374 (implying he won't just be a Target exclusive like originally rumored)
SDCC GI Joe & Transformers Set 270027
Voyager Seeker 2-Pack 477915
Earthrise Quintesson Judge 482458
Commander Class Sky Lynx 480395
Movie Masterpiece 480366 (unknown figure, sku doesn't match Megatron or Jazz)

DELTAprime
22nd February 2020, 06:30 PM
Why do I get the feeling Hasbro didn't learn from the backlash of last year's many, many exclusives?

griffin
22nd February 2020, 08:27 PM
Why do I get the feeling Hasbro didn't learn from the backlash of last year's many, many exclusives?

That's exactly what I was thinking too...


And with such a large percentage of War For Cybertron toys are limited exclusives, this is just going to keep forcing fans to be hostile towards Hasbro, instead of winning them over with new characters and ideas.

I still have two left to collect, but have spent a lot of money on last year's exclusives to import them. I think I would have actually saved money if we still had TRU here and they were all TRU exclusives. :p

Omega Metro
22nd February 2020, 08:53 PM
Any ideas what the Movie Masterpiece will be? My heart hopes for Starscream but it will probably be Ratchet..

DELTAprime
22nd February 2020, 09:22 PM
Any ideas what the Movie Masterpiece will be? My heart hopes for Starscream but it will probably be Ratchet..

I did see a rumour last year that Starscream was the next one coming.

DELTAprime
24th February 2020, 12:22 PM
More leaked listings from Toys R Us Canada.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-toys-found-on-toysrus-system-with-thrust-hubcap-exhaust-g2-megatron-bugbite-and-more/44559/


Generations Clones 2-Pack 477877

Generations Select Bugbite 479605

Generations Selects Hubcap 479608

Generations Selects deluxe Rotorstorm 480425

Generations Selects deluxe Hothouse 479616

Generations Selects voyager G2 Megatron 479611

Deluxe Exhaust 458783

Roritchi (redeco of Fasttrack) 479613

WFC Deluxe Arcee 472047

WFC Deluxe Smokescreen 472050

Deluxe Greasepit 477882

Micromaster Spy Patrol 477912

Seeker Thrust 380374

SDCC GI Joe & Transformers Set 270027

Voyager Seeker 2-Pack 477915

Earthrise Quintesson Judge 482458

Commander Class Sky Lynx 480395

Earthrise Battle Master ast 447385

Earthrise Leader Class ast 447379

Earthrise Voyager Class ast 447371

Earthrise Deluxe Class ast 447369

Earthrise Micromasters ast 447366

Repugnus's Revenge SKU 480401

Cyberverse Sinister Seeker Strikeforce 479895

Movie Masterpiece 480366 (Editor's note, this is probably Ratchet)

DaptoDog
24th February 2020, 01:14 PM
MPM Ratchet would be perfect to finish the Autobots from the first movie. Starscream and Ratchet were meant to be released this year so I'm sure Starscream's announcement will follow suit.

Ralph Wiggum
24th February 2020, 01:33 PM
MPM Ratchet would make me very happy, given how he never really got a decently scaled figure. Completing the first movie Autobot set is an added bonus.

DELTAprime
24th February 2020, 01:59 PM
And Amazon UK has listed an "Alternate Universe" Optimus Prime.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/02/23/possible-new-alternate-universe-optimus-prime-listing-406884

DELTAprime
25th February 2020, 10:36 AM
A UK retailer has listed an Earthrise Sunstreaker and Trailbreaker.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/potential-war-for-cybertron-earthrise-sunstreaker-and-trailbreaker-listed/44566/

High_Q
29th February 2020, 01:02 PM
A UK retailer has listed an Earthrise Sunstreaker and Trailbreaker.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/potential-war-for-cybertron-earthrise-sunstreaker-and-trailbreaker-listed/44566/

And here's a first look (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/02/28/first-look-at-transformers-earthrise-trailbreaker-and-sunstreaker-407209) at both. Sunstreaker looks amazing in both modes. My only gripe is with the gaps in the lower legs. Gonna get two of SS.

G1Optimal
20th March 2020, 09:10 PM
From a takara=tomy upcoming releases and the next mpm is mpm10 starscream
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/03/19/takara-tomy-upcoming-new-releases-masterpiece-mpm-10-starscream-revealed-war-for-cybertron-netflix-studio-series-408306

The amount in brackets is usd


MPM-10 Starscream – September 2020, 20,000 Yen ($181.82)
WFC-01 Mirage – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($31.82)
WFC-02 Hound – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($31.82)
WFC-03 Chromia – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($31.82)
WFC-04 Sideswipe – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($31.82)
WFC-05 Scrapface – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($31.82)
WFC-06 Hotlink – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($54.56)
WFC- 07 Megatron – September 2020, 3500 Yen ($54.56)
WFC – 08 Ultra Magnus – September 2020, 10000 Yen ($90.93)
Studio Series SS-52 Shatter (Jet) – June 2020, 2800 Yen ($25.46)
Studio Series SS-53 Cliffjumper – August 2020, 2800 Yen ($25.46)
Studio Series SS-54 Decepticon Overload – August 2020, 6800 Yen ($61.83)
Studio Series SS-55 Soundwave – September 2020, 2800 Yen ($25.46)
Studio Series SS-56 Topspin – September 2020, 2800 Yen ($25.46)

Omega Metro
20th March 2020, 10:21 PM
mpm10 starscream.....awesome! Just the one I’ve been waiting for.:o

Autocon
21st March 2020, 04:47 AM
Wasnt starscream already released in the movie mp line?

Paulbot
21st March 2020, 07:18 AM
Wasnt starscream already released in the movie mp line?

Yes. It was the HFTD leader Starscream toy.

griffin
8th April 2020, 09:16 PM
Found on the Walmart computer is two listings that could be redeco reissues (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/04/06/new-mysterious-walmart-listings-for-generations-g1-red-figures-409640), which would be unusual because one is Megatron (the other being Soundwave). Megatron can't be released in western countries like America without some odd colouring. About 20 years ago, a reissue of the Gen1 Megatron gun was proposed by Hasbro, but the colours were so while (orange and purple), that it was abandoned.

Unicran
8th April 2020, 10:37 PM
Call Megatron’s alt mode a submarine, a spacecraft or whatever. Just don’t say it’s a gun. Done. Now sell a squillion units.

Tha_Phantom
9th April 2020, 12:45 PM
Be funny if it turns out to be Action Master G1 Megs. :p

Actually, no it wouldn't.

DELTAprime
17th April 2020, 11:57 PM
Yet more evidence that we are getting a Gen Select Exhaust, Greasepit and Hubcap in the near future.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/listings-for-transformers-selects-exhaust-greasepit-and-hubcap/44733/

G1Optimal
7th May 2020, 03:35 PM
Earthrise Earthmode 2-Pack Product Description Revealed: Prowl and Ironhide
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/06/earthrise-earthmode-2-pack-product-description-revealed-prowl-and-ironhide-411057

DELTAprime
7th May 2020, 07:18 PM
Earthrise Earthmode 2-Pack Product Description Revealed: Prowl and Ironhide
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/06/earthrise-earthmode-2-pack-product-description-revealed-prowl-and-ironhide-411057

So, do I replace my Siege Ironhide and possibly Siege Ratchet with Earthrise figures? Ah, probably not.

griffin
7th May 2020, 08:58 PM
Earthrise Earthmode 2-Pack Product Description Revealed: Prowl and Ironhide
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/06/earthrise-earthmode-2-pack-product-description-revealed-prowl-and-ironhide-411057

The translation from the Amazon France product page...


A battlefield to build! The siege is over, but the war for Cybertron has only just begun. Although Autobots and Decepticons have left Cybertron, their fight continues in space as they search for the Allspark. The Autobot Alliance and the elite hunters compete! The images on the WFC-E31 Autobot Alliance and WFC-E27 Elite Hunters packs show both sides of their epic battle after the Ark landed on Earth. Combining the two completes the battle scene (elite fighters WFC-E27 sold separately, while stocks last) Tough, safety officer Autobot Ironhide converts into a van in 22 stages. Military strategist Autobot Prowl converts to a police car in 15 steps. The toy also contains 2 blasters. Transformers and all associated characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

So, WFC-E31 is DLX Prowl and DLX Ironhide as the "Autobot Alliance", which is paired up against the WFC-E27 "Elite Hunters" (or Elite Fighters).

The question is, are they just Siege redecos, or Earthrise new moulds.
And who do you think is in the other pack? If the name is Hunters, my thinking is Coneheads 2-pack, even though it would be 2 Voyagers verses 2 Deluxe (these two 2-packs pair up, and the boxes share the one battle scene, like the Siege packs that had Skywarp and black Sideswipe).

Tha_Phantom
7th May 2020, 11:00 PM
I'd be willing to bet that one of the Decepticons is Runabout. Of course Hasbro will want us to complete the Runamuck/Runabout duo by putting one of them in an exclusive 2 pack. :rolleyes:

griffin
14th May 2020, 04:35 PM
Someone has been digging around on the walmart computers in America, and they claim to have found the second wave of Netflix Deluxes (based on their price and coding).




TRA DELUXE BUMBLEBEE
TRA DELUX QUINTESSON
TRA DELUXE WHEELJACK
TRA DELUXE IMPACTOR
TRA DELUX DEEP COVER
TRA DELUXE RED ALERT
TRA DELUXE BARRICADE
TRA DELUXE ELITA 1



If that list is true, and Netflix toys are only redecos, the last five should be obvious redecos of Siege toys (with Deep Cover and Elita 1 being full redecos). Wheeljack would have to be the first wave Siege toy with battle damage like most of the first wave, and Bumblebee must be just a redeco of Siege Cliffjumper, while Quintesson is an odd one as Allicon is the only Deluxe "Quintesson", and it might not be out before this second wave (the first Netflix toys were all redecos of toys that had been out for a while).

Zommael
15th May 2020, 11:22 AM
Cheetor is also apparently rumoured:

https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/14/new-netflixs-war-for-cybertron-deluxe-cheetor-walmart-listing-411351

The leading theory seems to be that we might be getting a new deluxe Ravage in Earthrise, and this would be a redeco of that. If that's the case they'll probably both be based on Transmetal Cheetor, which was redecoed into Ravage ("Tripredacus Agent") in BW.

griffin
17th May 2020, 08:09 PM
Studio Series Devastator boxset (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/16/studio-series-devastator-boxset-listing-411456), apparently found on a UK wholesaler website, so until it is officially revealed, or listed at a major retailer, it's yet to be confirmed.
The pricing is somewhere between £200-280 (about AU$380-530). No other details though, like when and what will be in the box.

Well if this is true, it is hardly a surprise... it was just the estimated price that might have been the stumbling block for Hasbro to do it. But considering they have been offering the really expensive Japanese import MP toys in the last year or so through their online store (and exclusive outlets), they probably thought that it wouldn't look as bad in comparison.

DELTAprime
21st May 2020, 10:21 AM
Take this one with a grain of salt because it could just be a digibash, but there is a picture making the rounds of a sleep mode Earthrise Optimus Prime.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/possible-transformers-earthrise-leader-sleep-mode-prime-picture-found/44816/

griffin
21st May 2020, 11:38 AM
Unless Optimus dies (again) in the WFC cartoon, I don't see the point of it.

griffin
31st May 2020, 01:17 PM
From a German website, a listing for WFC Bluestreak (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/30/rumor-possible-earthrise-bluestreak-listing-412000).

reillyd
5th June 2020, 07:08 PM
If you believe Seibertron (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/possible-86-transformers-movie-toys-coming-to-studio-series-line/44866/) a future Studio Series Grimlock release listed in Walmart?s system will instead cover the 86 movie and include Wheelie.

It really seems like a stretch to me. And to be honest, I?d be more excited about a G1 Grimlock and Wheelie release than I would a studio series. If you want a good WFC Grimlock toy we already had them, even repainted in G1 colours. But I would kill for a reissue of the actual Grimlock toy, for all his chunkyness as lack of articulation. And imagine the repaint possibilities. Blue and teal Grimlock would be awesome. Heck there?s not a colour in the rainbow I wouldn?t buy G1 Grimlock in.

Paulbot
5th June 2020, 07:18 PM
If you believe Seibertron (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/possible-86-transformers-movie-toys-coming-to-studio-series-line/44866/) a future Studio Series Grimlock release listed in Walmart?s system will instead cover the 86 movie and include Wheelie.

It really seems like a stretch to me. And to be honest, I?d be more excited about a G1 Grimlock and Wheelie release than I would a studio series. If you want a good WFC Grimlock toy we already had them, even repainted in G1 colours. But I would kill for a reissue of the actual Grimlock toy, for all his chunkyness as lack of articulation. And imagine the repaint possibilities. Blue and teal Grimlock would be awesome. Heck there?s not a colour in the rainbow I wouldn?t buy G1 Grimlock in.

If TFwiki is correct we know all the Studio Series toys up to number 67. The next figure would be 68. Is it not more likely that someone mistyped 68 as 86 than for the line to suddenly shift to TFTM?

Since there's an AOE Grimlock it would have to be TLK Grimlock - so maybe he comes with another baby Dinobot? Or with human element?

If it is TFTM characters the idea it's anything other than repaints of the characters who've all been released in the last three years is pretty laughable.

griffin
5th June 2020, 08:24 PM
I certainly wouldn't like to see the 1986 movie be roped into the Studio Series, as they have their own design, and are far from being "complete". An anniversary release of 1986 movie characters should be their own line... if they were to be part of Studio Series, with that level of detailing and engineering, we would need to see a whole new range of 1984-1986 characters done in the same way (like the Studio Series Optimus from the Bumblebee Movie).

I would have to agree with the above sentiment, that it is more likely to be a redeco Grimlock (which would be disappointing), and come with a proper transforming Wheelie toy (the non-converting one that came with Shockwave was insulting).

Paulbot
5th June 2020, 08:28 PM
Just remembered Wheelie returned in The Last Knight. So yeah, it's #68 TLK Grimlock with Wheelie

griffin
5th June 2020, 10:14 PM
Take this one with a grain of salt because it could just be a digibash, but there is a picture making the rounds of a sleep mode Earthrise Optimus Prime.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/possible-transformers-earthrise-leader-sleep-mode-prime-picture-found/44816/

More photos of this toy in-hand (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/06/04/war-for-cybertron-earthrise-sleep-mode-optimus-prime-in-hand-images-412353). If it isn't a legit upcoming item, it looks like one of those "lunchtime specials" we used to see (the factory producing a small run, or even a test-run, to sell without authorisation, instead of disposing them).

G1Optimal
6th June 2020, 11:32 AM
STUDIO SERIES LEADER GRINDOR AND RAVAGE and 86 DELUXE GNAW and ROTF SIDESWIPE

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/studio-series-leader-grindor-and-ravage-and-86-deluxe-gnaw-and-rotf-sideswipe.1194700/

G1Optimal
6th June 2020, 04:12 PM
Even More Studio Series Walmart Listings: Deluxe “TF6” Bumblebee And Dino
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/06/06/even-more-studio-series-walmart-listings-deluxe-tf6-bumblebee-and-dino-412499

New Transformers Studio Series Revenge Of The Fallen Deluxe Bumblebee & Sam And Deluxe Jolt Walmart Listings
https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/06/05/new-transformers-studio-series-revenge-of-the-fallen-deluxe-bumblebee-sam-and-deluxe-jolt-walmart-listings-412486

griffin
6th June 2020, 07:47 PM
I was so sure that the 86 Grimlock listing was some sort of error, but then 86 Gnaw was now found, supporting the idea of the 1986 Movie being included in the Studio Series toyline... which I don't think will look right, and opens up the potential of them doing characters that were in the 1986 Movie but weren't new to the Movie (like Grimlock).

Paulbot
6th June 2020, 08:15 PM
I don’t know, something still doesn’t smell right.

The first two Leader (AOE Grimlock and TF Blackout) figures being repainted/retooled as TLK Grimlock and ROTF Grindor and both being given an extra accessory/character from those movies (TLK Wheelie and ROTF Ravage) seems so symmetrical and logical to me.

I can’t imagine new TFTM character figures being developed when Earthrise is releasing Arcee (already one of three), Quintesson Judge (also in Cyberverse), Allicon and rumoured Bumblebee and Blurr.

Over the last few years we’ve had pretty much everyone important in the movie released in the current lines of cartoon accurate Generations figures: Optimus, Ironhide, Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream, Shockwave, Hot Rod, Kup, Ultra Magnus Blurr, Springer, Perceptor, Astrotrain, Blitzwing, Cliffjumper, Jazz, all the Dinobots, the Insecticons, Gnaw, Wheelie, Blaster, Brawn, Prowl, Ratchet, the Constructicons, Galvatron, Scourge, Cyclonus, Wreck-Gar, Rodimis Prime... even Unicron is part of the current line of toys!!!

Other than a better scale Blaster and a more cartoon accurate Cyclonus and Wreck-Gar (likely all coming in the next part of the trilogy with a new Galavtron) there’s no need to make new toys.

Remember the Platnium set of Movie characters a few years ago: that’s what I’d expect if anything.

Thurmus
7th June 2020, 09:33 AM
Got to get this one.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/06/06/transformers-earthrise-cyclonus-thrust-soundwave-%ef%bc%86-top-gun-x-transformers-top-maverick-412505

Unicran
7th June 2020, 06:50 PM
I feel the need, the need for this.

Looking forward to pics of bot mode.

GoktimusPrime
7th June 2020, 07:56 PM
Hhmmm... not feeling it from the robot mode. Jet mode looks nice, but honestly if I just wanted a neat looking F14 Tomcat I'd go buy a model kit. The pic of the robot mode on the box looks too much like the Star Wars Crossovers TFs (I've never liked how they tried to make the robot modes resemble the pilots). Maybe photos of the actual robot mode will look gooder.

Tha_Phantom
7th June 2020, 08:46 PM
Totally did not see this coming (I was hoping for Back to the Future) but I can get on board with this.

Paulbot
7th June 2020, 09:23 PM
When I posted about a new Cyclonus last night it was an expectation given the CW version wasn’t accurate.

I didn’t expect a leak to show a new Cyclonus (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-pictures-of-earthrise-cyclonus-test-shot-earthrise-thrust-and-possible-earthrise-soundwave/44873) a few hours later.

reillyd
7th June 2020, 10:10 PM
I think it might be a fan custom or third party KO, but did you see the Top Gun Maverick in the background of those photos. Seems kinda left field, and the Transformers logo isn?t right

Autocon
11th June 2020, 03:02 AM
Do you think dino will be non licensed look alike (but not too much a like)

Tha_Phantom
11th June 2020, 09:07 AM
Do you think dino will be non licensed look alike (but not too much a like)

I'm really hoping they've gotten that Ferrari license.

DELTAprime
11th June 2020, 11:21 AM
I'm really hoping they've gotten that Ferrari license.

Knowing Ferrari, I bet Dino is unlicensed.

Jazzman
11th June 2020, 12:50 PM
Yeah... I'm in :cool:

Sinnertwin
11th June 2020, 02:00 PM
My volleyball shorts, baby oil & body are ready.

Deano85
11th June 2020, 06:40 PM
Totally did not see this coming (I was hoping for Back to the Future) but I can get on board with this.

If we get this.....then I'm in

I actually got this design on a black shirt
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f9/7d/c7/f97dc72590cbd7a6a600da187eaa142a.jpg

Tha_Phantom
12th June 2020, 07:31 AM
I actually got this design on a black shirt
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f9/7d/c7/f97dc72590cbd7a6a600da187eaa142a.jpg

That looks sick!

Now this is bringing back memories of a Lego transforming "Delorean" I made as a kid. When I say transforming, I think the legs swung out from the back and maybe the doors swung out to become arms, so nothing too spectacular. I want an official TF/BTTF crossover so bad.

High_Q
12th June 2020, 08:54 AM
Has this toy been officially announced as a Hasbro product yet? Could it be a KO, custom or photoshop?

This appearing with a never-officially-revealed Cyclonus prototype makes me suspicious.

Paulbot
12th June 2020, 09:45 AM
It hasn't.

griffin
12th June 2020, 11:38 AM
It hasn't been officially revealed, and could be in the rumours topic later.

Unicran
12th June 2020, 01:29 PM
My volleyball shorts, baby oil & body are ready.
You can be my wingman any time, Sinner.

reillyd
13th June 2020, 03:01 PM
We?ve seen a photo of a Earthrise Thrust already (which confirms they?re coming). On the Earthrise box for Skylynx (now available at Big W!) there were depictions of the other coneheads Dirge and Ramjet on the illustrated box art.

DELTAprime
18th June 2020, 08:58 PM
That Sleep Mode Optimus Prime is apparently coming as a Prime Day Exclusive and is being called Alternate Universe Optimus Prime for some strange reason.

Did Hasbro think nobody would buy a dead Transformer?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-alternate-universe-optimus-prime-to-be-a-prime-day-release-on-amazon-package-photos/44898/

griffin
19th June 2020, 09:54 PM
Unless it is a plot element of the Netflix cartoon, I think it is rather morbid to sell dead Transformers. Takara did it once with their first Masterpiece Convoy/Optimus, and even they called it something else (Sleep Convoy)... so calling it "alternative universe" Optimus is also a bit strange. If it is supposed to be dead, then call it that, otherwise, to me it just looks like a lazy redeco along the lines of the compulsory black Japanese redecos.

And if you think about it, how do you even play with a dead character toy? It's only purpose is to swap out the coloured, "living" toy that you are playing with, so it can't do anything or even transform when used in a play environment (unless you go down the zombie route).
If zombie transformers are a thing (ignoring that awful season 3 episode Dweller in the Depths), why not sell more of them... in shades of grey and with red eyes.

griffin
20th June 2020, 03:05 PM
The rumoured Earthrise Hubcap toy shown off with Cliffjumper, as it appears to be a redeco of Cliffjumper with a new head. Some images can be seen here (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/06/19/transformers-earthrise-deluxe-class-hubcap-in-hand-images-413067).

When Hasbro had all their toys made in China several years ago, we were having lots of toys being stolen from the factory and sold off to people posting up money-making youtube videos... and now it looks like it is starting to happen again, as a number of leaked toys have appeared in the last few months.

griffin
20th June 2020, 04:19 PM
That Sleep Mode Optimus Prime is apparently coming as a Prime Day Exclusive and is being called Alternate Universe Optimus Prime for some strange reason.

Did Hasbro think nobody would buy a dead Transformer?

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-alternate-universe-optimus-prime-to-be-a-prime-day-release-on-amazon-package-photos/44898/


Noted to be US$50, and Prime Day is said to be released July 15th, but could be delayed due to covid.

griffin
27th June 2020, 08:42 AM
A GEN Dirge has been leaked (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/06/26/possible-first-look-at-earthrise-dirge-413495), probably from the same source as the Thrust toy from a few weeks ago.

DELTAprime
11th July 2020, 02:42 PM
So looks like more G1 characters in the Studio Series. Jazz (could be G1 or 07 movie), Blurr and Kup.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/10/new-studio-series-deluxe-walmart-listings-kup-blurr-new-jazz-bumblebee-414472

griffin
11th July 2020, 02:48 PM
Three more Deluxe Studio Series toys have been found in the Walmart Computers (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/10/new-studio-series-deluxe-walmart-listings-kup-blurr-new-jazz-bumblebee-414472), with names suggesting more 1986 Movie characters getting toys - Kup, Jazz, Blurr (two aren't even in the new movies).

The other names on the list are interesting as well, with Jolt & Dino listed, which could mean that we are still going to see new movie characters coming out along side the old movie characters.

Paulbot
11th July 2020, 02:59 PM
Just a thought... the Star Wars Black Series is somewhat comparable to Studio Series. The Star Wars series has included characters from parts of the franchise that aren’t in live action movies (such as the Rebels cartoon, and latest Marvel comics). For those they’ve been done in a realistic style to not look out of place with movie-inspired characters.

What if Studio series Kup, Blurr, Grimlock etc turned out to be somewhat similar realistic takes on the cartoon designs?

(Probably not since there’s no such designs to be based on but would be an interesting take and something more unique than more CHUG/MP style toys).

DELTAprime
11th July 2020, 03:03 PM
Just a thought... the Star Wars Black Series is somewhat comparable to Studio Series. The Star Wars series has included characters from parts of the franchise that aren’t in live action movies (such as the Rebels cartoon, and latest Marvel comics). For those they’ve been done in a realistic style to not look out of place with movie-inspired characters.

What if Studio series Kup, Blurr, Grimlock etc turned out to be somewhat similar realistic takes on the cartoon designs?

(Probably not since there’s no such designs to be based on but would be an interesting take and something more unique than more CHUG/MP style toys).

I don't think it is a realistic take. Someone pointed out to me that the Voyager Cyclonus that was leaked was super 86-movie-accurate in a way CHUG isn't.

Paulbot
11th July 2020, 03:47 PM
Yeah I know what it will probably be but the WFC Siege/Earthrise toys are already going for more and more cartoon accuracy these days (compared to CHUG where that wasn’t important).

Splitting 84-86 G1 characters over both WFC and SS is boring (can’t we have things that aren’t those again!) but probably what’s going to happen.

Tha_Phantom
13th July 2020, 10:04 AM
This was shared on a Facebook group. Obviously take it with a grain of salt.
https://i.ibb.co/2WmdrDc/109338889-3112717648818982-473159919408871850-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/YPYhSzf)

griffin
14th July 2020, 05:22 PM
Three new Cyberverse Deluxe toys have been found on the Walmart website (actual product pages, so probably more likely than just a rumour... but no images or details, so rumour it will remain for now).
Starscream, Soundwave and Prowl (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/12/new-transformers-cyberverse-deluxe-build-a-figure-walmart-listings-starscream-soundwave-prowl-414574) - there is no mention of them being part of a build-a-figure this time, so we will have to wait and see when they are officially revealed to see if these ones come with bonus parts.

nalops
17th July 2020, 09:44 AM
Could very well be fake but there's a very blurry version of some War for Cybertron Trilogy: Kingdom promotional art going around with lots of BW characters in it:-

https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/16/rumor-possible-war-for-cybertron-trilogy-kingdom-promotional-image-414816

nalops
17th July 2020, 05:25 PM
Promo images of Earthrise Boxsets for Ramjet & Dirge plus Ironhide & Prowl appear to have leaked.

https://twitter.com/hotconvoy/status/1284013300087435264?s=19

DELTAprime
17th July 2020, 06:54 PM
Promo images of Earthrise Boxsets for Ramjet & Dirge plus Ironhide & Prowl appear to have leaked.

https://twitter.com/hotconvoy/status/1284013300087435264?s=19

I'm happy with Henkei Prowl and Siege Ironhide, but these new ones do look nice.

griffin
19th July 2020, 08:45 PM
More R.E.D. toys have been found on the Walmart computers (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/17/more-transformers-r-e-d-figures-on-the-way-optimus-prime-redeco-knockout-starscream-415136) (the exclusive source for them in America).
G1 Starscream, Prime Knockout, and redeco Optimus.

griffin
21st July 2020, 06:04 PM
WFC-E41 Runabout has been said to be found on the Target computers in America (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/20/transformers-earthrise-wfc-e41-deluxe-runabout-listed-in-targets-system-415252), which is an expected redeco of Runamuck, and the Earthrise number hasn't been used yet.

DELTAprime
21st July 2020, 06:51 PM
WFC-E41 Runabout has been said to be found on the Target computers in America (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/07/20/transformers-earthrise-wfc-e41-deluxe-runabout-listed-in-targets-system-415252), which is an expected redeco of Runamuck, and the Earthrise number hasn't been used yet.

I hope he's not yet another Target Exclusive.

griffin
8th August 2020, 09:38 PM
From an ebay auction CG images of a Generations Bluestreak toy have been revealed (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/07/rumor-possible-transformers-earthrise-bluestreak-3d-renders-416747)... which apparently was found as an unconfirmed listing back in May (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/30/rumor-possible-earthrise-bluestreak-listing-412000), so might be something for Earthrise at some point.

nalops
8th August 2020, 10:16 PM
From an ebay auction CG images of a Generations Bluestreak toy have been revealed (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/07/rumor-possible-transformers-earthrise-bluestreak-3d-renders-416747)... which apparently was found as an unconfirmed listing back in May (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/30/rumor-possible-earthrise-bluestreak-listing-412000), so might be something for Earthrise at some point.

Guessing it'll be general release this time unlike Siege. Prowl went from general to Amazon exclusive and Smokescreen went from Gen Selects to general. Why do I get the feeling we'll get and Earthrise Barricade?

Tha_Phantom
19th August 2020, 09:20 AM
Studio Series Devastator boxset (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/05/16/studio-series-devastator-boxset-listing-411456), apparently found on a UK wholesaler website, so until it is officially revealed, or listed at a major retailer, it's yet to be confirmed.
The pricing is somewhere between £200-280 (about AU$380-530). No other details though, like when and what will be in the box.

Well if this is true, it is hardly a surprise... it was just the estimated price that might have been the stumbling block for Hasbro to do it. But considering they have been offering the really expensive Japanese import MP toys in the last year or so through their online store (and exclusive outlets), they probably thought that it wouldn't look as bad in comparison.

If this is a genuine, then it appears to be the regular releases but with Rampage replaced by Skipjack (who is also getting a separate release). Can't see any new accessories as those four parts on the left hand side are parts of Rampage/Skipjack and Mixmaster. Long Haul might have some new gold/yellow paint apps on him or that could just be a reflection, not sure.

https://i.ibb.co/RSYZnkQ/117678607-1277250442625380-3990678751716179144-o.jpg (https://ibb.co/vBVg56L)

griffin
19th August 2020, 10:08 PM
This TFW news posting has that image in the post above (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/18/rumor-studio-series-devastator-box-set-incoming-417383), but stretched sideways, which you can see from the "Transformers" writing on the box, looks right (the image above appears to have been squished from the sides for some strange reason).

It's gonna be a big box.

griffin
19th August 2020, 10:11 PM
Another listing of products from a US store computer system (Target), with photos of the actual listings (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/17/new-transformers-kingdom-studio-series-1986-masterpiece-listings-from-target-417185).




New Masterpiece Bumblebee – $79.90 (No extra information. Camaro 77 maybe? Your guess is as good as ours)
Transformers Slag & Daniel
Earthrise Runabout (Deluxe, $19.99)
Transformers Seeker Thrust
Transformers Kup
Transformers Jazz (Deluxe, $19.99)
Transformers Astrotrain
Transfomrers Tbd3 (Unknown, priced $19.99)
Transfomrers Tbd4 (Unknown, priced $19.99)
Transformers Project Future Dlx (Gigawatt)
Transformers Jolt
Transformers Dino
Transformers Sideswipe
Transformers Bumblebee
Transformers Grimlock
Transformers Starscream (we have in fact, 2 different listings: one for Kingdom and another one for Studio Series)
Transformers Scourge (Voyager, $29.99)
Transformes Hot Rod (Voyager, $29.99)
Transformers Cyclonus (Voyager, 29.99)
Transformers Optimus Prime (New figure, Voyager $29.99 – Mistaken Optimus Primal?)
Transformers Inferno
Transformers Rhinox
Transformers Dinobot
Transformers Tigatron (Voyager, $29.99)

Autocon
20th August 2020, 01:05 AM
Are those new beast wars figures?

Bidoofdude
20th August 2020, 02:12 AM
Are those new beast wars figures?

Kingdom is part 3 of WFC and is Beast Wars themed, so probably yes. Inferno is likely to be the G1 character Grapple redeco though.

griffin
21st August 2020, 05:40 PM
Walmart listings on their internal computer system (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/20/transformers-kingdom-walmart-listings-417527) has a number of items for next year as well, that go with the Target listings a few posts up...


Tra Gen WFC K Deluxe Cheetor
EAN:5010993764754

Tra Gen WFC K Deluxe Warpath
EAN:5010993764761


Tra Gen WFC K Deluxe BLACKARACHNIA
EAN: 5010993764778


Tra Gen WFC K Core Rattrap
EAN:5010993764792


Tra Gen WFC K Core Optimus Prime
EAN:5010993764808


TRA Gen WFC K Core AST
EAN: 5010993767038


TRA Gen WFC K Voyager AST
EAN: 5010993767052


TRA Gen WFC K Leader AST
EAN: 5010993767076


Tra Gen WFC K leader Optimus Prime PR
EAN: 5010993767021
(note “PR” stands for package refresh so this is most likely Earthrise Optimus in Kingdom Packaging)


Tra Gen WFC K voyager Cyclonus
EAN:5010993767014


Tra Gen WFC K voyager Optimus Primal
EAN: 5010993766987


Tra Gen WFC K leader Trex Megatron
EAN: 5010993766970

Gehirn
21st August 2020, 05:45 PM
That's a good number of Beast Wars characters combined with the other listings.

Sinnertwin
21st August 2020, 06:51 PM
Im glad it's something different from the usual G1 love letter.
But Beast Wars? Lol.

griffin
22nd August 2020, 10:08 PM
More US Walmart store listings have surfaced (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/21/more-transformers-kingdom-walmart-listings-417612)...


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Huffer
EAN:5010993782253

Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Pipes
EAN: 5010993782246


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Wheeljack
EAN: 5010993782239


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Tracks
EAN:5010993782222


Tra Gen WFC k Deluxe Shadow Panther
EAN: 5010993782215


Tra Gen WFC K Leader Galvatron
EAN: 5010993782208


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Waspinator
EAN: 5010993782260


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Airrazor
EAN: 5010993782284


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Slammer
EAN: 5010993782185


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe Wingfinger
EAN: 5010993782130


Tra Gen WFC K deluxe RACTONITE
EAN: 5010993782321


TRA Gen WFC K deluxe Scorponok
EAN: 5010993782345


TRA Gen WFC K deluxe Arcee
EAN: 5010993782352


TRA Gen WFC K leader Ultra Magnus Earth mode
EAN: 5010993782093



This image has been floating around today (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/recap-of-all-mainline-toys-to-be-released-in-transformers-wfc-kingdom-new-listings/45155/), which looks to collate the recent retail listings... I don't think it is a separate listing from a different source (so don't see it as confirmation from an unrelated source... but the US store listings should be fairly reliable at this stage, while some names are likely to change from these early place-names).

griffin
24th August 2020, 05:02 PM
Another set of Walmart listings (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/22/new-tra-headmaster-ast-walmart-listings-417651) that are a bit on the left-field side of things...


TRA Headmaster ast
EAN: 5010993797578


TRA Headmaster ast
EAN: 5010993797585


TRA Headmaster ast
EAN: 5010993797561

Tra Headmaster Ast
EAN: 5010993797653



These are assortment listings, which would be for different size classes... but since they already have Kingdom listings, could these be for the toyline that will be replacing Cyberverse, because we don't know yet what will be the "younger demographic" toyline will be for next year.
If it was for the Generations toys that were "headmasters", it is more likely that it would be listed as "Titan Master".
There will be a lot of speculating until we get some actual product leaks or official announcements.

SMHFConvoy
24th August 2020, 07:19 PM
Could even be what's replacing rescue bots, I mean titan/headmaster can be easily redefined as, "Imagine you're the transformer!" TBH this is just speculation.

reillyd
24th August 2020, 09:45 PM
Does anyone have any ideas about the Walmart Headmasters listings?

I know that Walmart gets the G1 reissues, but would it be too far fetched to hope for G1 headmaster reissues?
I never really followed mold rumours about what had survived, and what had not. But on some of the g1 reissues from walmart they?ve actually made changes, suggesting they?re using new moulds anyway.

Or do you think this is probably just excess titans return stock repackaged?

SMHFConvoy
25th August 2020, 07:21 AM
Walmart listings on their internal computer system (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/20/transformers-kingdom-walmart-listings-417527) has a number of items for next year as well, that go with the Target listings a few posts up...

I'm wondering with the new core class, maybe they're deluxe priced but come with a battlemaster accessory. Pure speculation obviously.

griffin
25th August 2020, 08:59 AM
Core class is likely to be the new small size of $10 or $20, as I don't recall any indication of more micromasters or battle masters in Kingdom.

griffin
6th September 2020, 12:40 PM
Speculation that the Titan Class toy for Kingdom will be the Ark, continues to grow, with an unconfirmed leak of an image from somewhere obscure (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/09/05/rumor-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-the-ark-incoming-418740), which could just be something thrown together based on the rumours.

Meanwhile, the Studio Series Devastator boxset has been listed on another online store (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/09/04/transformers-studio-series-devastator-boxset-new-listing-and-product-description-418711), but still hasn't been officially revealed yet... so I'll stick this here for now.


This all-in-one Constructicons pack contains 2 Deluxe Class Figures: Constructicon Scrapmetal, Constructicon HIghtower; 4 Voyager Class figures: Constructicon Rampage, Constructicon Long Haul, Constructicon Scrapper, and Constructicon Mixmaster; 2 Leader Clas Figures: Constructicon Overload, Constructicon Scavenger. Each figure converts from robot to vehicle and back, and all 8 figures combine to form a giant Devastator figure. Assemble the figure and add the ultimate destructive Decepticon force to recreating battle scenes from the Transformers Revenge of the Fallen movie!
Are you ready for the incredible might of Devastator? You’ll combine and attack with the most destructive Decepticon yet with the Construction figures in this Devastator set! Every one of these warriors converts from robot to vehicle mode and back, and in vehicle mode they can build or destroy whatever the battle calls for, whether it’s Constructicon Long Haul hauling debris as a semi truck or Constructicon Scrapper shoveling it up as a forklift. But when the battle calls for total warfare, they’ll combine to form the terrifying, Devastator! His massive feet will crush puny enemies as he rakes them with blaster fire. Take the destruction to the next level with this monumental Devastator set! Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.
The Transformers battle doesn’t get any bigger than this — and Transformers fans can decide who fights it. Transformers Movie Studio Series figures unite to form giant super robots. This 8-figure pack contains the entire Constructicons team. Combine Constructicons figures to form a mighty Devastator robot.
PRODUCT FEATURES

Toy Series: Studio Series
From Transformers Revenge of the Fallen movie
Includes 2 Leader Class Figures, 4 Voyager Class Figures, and 2 Deluxe Class Figure
Each figure combines from construction vehicle to robot and back
Comes in giftset packaging
Product is brand new and in mint condition


PACKAGING CONTENTS

1 x Constructicon Leader OverloadFigure
1 x Constructicon Leader Scavenger Figure
1 x Constructicon Voyager Long Haul Figure
1 x Constructicon Voyager Rampage Figure
1 x Constructicon Voyager Scrapper Figure
1 x Constructicon Voyager Mixmaster Figure
1 x Constructicon Deluxe Scrapmetal Figure
1 x Constructicon Deluxe Hightower Figure
Array of Weapons and Accessories

nalops
6th September 2020, 12:56 PM
So the listing says Rampage but the box set pic that got leaked had a yellow leg, which would be Skipjack, right?Ummm?

griffin
6th September 2020, 04:18 PM
The boxset that looked to be from Asia (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/18/rumor-studio-series-devastator-box-set-incoming-417383), had the yellow version in there, but they might still call it Rampage, as the both colour versions in 2009 were called Rampage. (the new name for the yellow one as a separate toy this year was probably just to put a little more effort into the SS versions)
Or someone at TFsource was just making up the listing, based on what they were guessing was the contents.

nalops
6th September 2020, 05:07 PM
The boxset that looked to be from Asia (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/18/rumor-studio-series-devastator-box-set-incoming-417383), had the yellow version in there, but they might still call it Rampage, as the both colour versions in 2009 were called Rampage. (the new name for the yellow one as a separate toy this year was probably just to put a little more effort into the SS versions)
Or someone at TFsource was just making up the listing, based on what they were guessing was the contents.

Ah, those both make a lot of sense.

reillyd
6th September 2020, 07:02 PM
Until today I?d never heard of a rumoured Titan class ark. I would think it highly unlikely though as the Ark never transformed, right?

The artwork looks just like a drawing to me, and could just as easily be artwork we?d see on a box. Am I missing something though?

Bidoofdude
6th September 2020, 07:57 PM
I’m definitely down for an Ark, playsets are my jam. Honestly a lot are expecting it to have a robot mode/transform, but I would be perfectly fine with it being non-transforming and still a Titan class toy. They could definitely jam more features in that way. Some Animated nods like the AllSpark could be cool, apart from the obvious G1 homage.

griffin
6th September 2020, 08:17 PM
Until today I?d never heard of a rumoured Titan class ark. I would think it highly unlikely though as the Ark never transformed, right?

The artwork looks just like a drawing to me, and could just as easily be artwork we?d see on a box. Am I missing something though?

In Animated, Omega Supreme transformed into an Autobot ship that looked like the Ark (might have even been called the Ark). I was one of many who hated the tease of seeing it in the cartoon and not having it as a toy... possibly due to the early axing of the series by Hasbro.

I'd really love to have a decent fold-open, large playset that has an accurate form of the Ark... but Hasbro will probably cheapen it or spoil it some how.

High_Q
6th September 2020, 08:51 PM
In Animated, Omega Supreme transformed into an Autobot ship that looked like the Ark (might have even been called the Ark).

So, i just checked TF Wiki (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Omega_Supreme_(Animated)).

In the cartoon, the stasis-locked ship's onboard computer is "Teletran-1", and the sentinel robot "Omega Supreme".
The Allspark Almanac confirms the cartoon naming convention but adds that the ship itself is named 'Orion'.
The comics call the ship itself "Teletran-1" and the robot Omega Supreme.

In short, the ship was never referred to as 'the Ark' in fiction. Some Hasbro reps did call it that at events, but other reps denied it.

nalops
6th October 2020, 10:25 AM
Looks like a new Japanese Gen Selects has been leaked: Earth mode Barricade. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3412585258807390&id=190726147660000

DELTAprime
6th October 2020, 10:43 AM
Looks like a new Japanese Gen Selects has been leaked: Earth mode Barricade. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3412585258807390&id=190726147660000

I want Micromaster Barricade. :(

Tha_Phantom
6th October 2020, 11:46 AM
I want Micromaster Barricade. :(

Seconded.

Bidoofdude
6th October 2020, 02:02 PM
An Earth mode Barricade is something I didn’t think we’d see, just because the Siege one already seemed like such a rarity already. In hindsight, of course they did, nothing is safe it seems. A big bulk of Siege is rendered pretty useless, which is disappointing.

I’m a bit exhausted by it, so I’ve mostly given up on replacing ones I already have. Prowl, Bluestreak, Ironhide and Ratchet are all still great toys after all. I am actually surprised at how many collectors are still chasing the new Earth versions, given the big investment into Siege.

DELTAprime
6th October 2020, 03:26 PM
An Earth mode Barricade is something I didn’t think we’d see, just because the Siege one already seemed like such a rarity already. In hindsight, of course they did, nothing is safe it seems. A big bulk of Siege is rendered pretty useless, which is disappointing.

I’m a bit exhausted by it, so I’ve mostly given up on replacing ones I already have. Prowl, Bluestreak, Ironhide and Ratchet are all still great toys after all. I am actually surprised at how many collectors are still chasing the new Earth versions, given the big investment into Siege.

I'm glad I didn't make a huge investment in Siege. But I probably would have if I didn't already have Henkei and United figures of a lot of those guys. That said I'm annoyed I have to purchase an Earth mode Ratchet to get Lifeline as I prefer Siege Ratchet and Ironhide.

SharkyMcShark
6th October 2020, 03:54 PM
It makes me wish that they'd leaned a little bit harder into the alien with the WFCS designs. Most of them are just 'Earthen vehicle in a slightly odd shape'.

Sinnertwin
6th October 2020, 04:25 PM
Makes you wonder if they're going to give us Kingdom first, then follow it up with evenmoreuberaccurate!!! figures.

Paulbot
6th October 2020, 05:58 PM
Makes you wonder if they're going to give us Kingdom first, then follow it up with evenmoreuberaccurate!!! figures.

On the one hand, many of the Beast Wars characters got upgrades to new forms in a way that almost no G1 characters did (PM Optimus and Goldbug aside).

On the other hand, those upgrades on the show were already so accurate to the Transmetal toys!

dirge
6th October 2020, 06:22 PM
It makes me wish that they'd leaned a little bit harder into the alien with the WFCS designs. Most of them are just 'Earthen vehicle in a slightly odd shape'.

Not disgreeing with you; you're right that there were clear Earthen overtones; but I suspect it's because too alien wont sell as well.

...I know I wouldn't have bought as many as I did.

Bidoofdude
7th October 2020, 02:24 PM
It makes me wish that they'd leaned a little bit harder into the alien with the WFCS designs. Most of them are just 'Earthen vehicle in a slightly odd shape'.

This coupled with the lack of saucer Bumblebee and hovercraft Wheeljack is the disapponting bit of the line.

griffin
18th October 2020, 12:24 AM
Another set of Walmart listings (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/22/new-tra-headmaster-ast-walmart-listings-417651) that are a bit on the left-field side of things...



These are assortment listings, which would be for different size classes... but since they already have Kingdom listings, could these be for the toyline that will be replacing Cyberverse, because we don't know yet what will be the "younger demographic" toyline will be for next year.
If it was for the Generations toys that were "headmasters", it is more likely that it would be listed as "Titan Master".
There will be a lot of speculating until we get some actual product leaks or official announcements.

I guess we now know what this was for... now that the retro TR Headmasters were revealed last night.

SMHFConvoy
19th October 2020, 08:19 AM
This coupled with the lack of saucer Bumblebee and hovercraft Wheeljack is the disapponting bit of the line.

I'm glad we didn't get saucer Bee or hover van Wheeljack, so many fans would complaining about how Bee does store inside of WJ to recreate that, "one moment from the cartoon."

valkyrie_76
24th October 2020, 11:50 AM
I'm glad we didn't get saucer Bee or hover van Wheeljack, so many fans would complaining about how Bee does store inside of WJ to recreate that, "one moment from the cartoon."

Sounds like a Masterpiece problem :rolleyes:

SMHFConvoy
24th October 2020, 12:12 PM
Sounds like a Masterpiece problem :rolleyes:

Literally a round peg into a square hole.

valkyrie_76
24th October 2020, 01:50 PM
Literally a round peg into a square hole.

I was thinking about the MP Starscream with Optimus' head as a disguise...........one second from a scene and its an expensive bonus.

SMHFConvoy
24th October 2020, 03:57 PM
I was thinking about the MP Starscream with Optimus' head as a disguise...........one second from a scene and its an expensive bonus.

And didn't 3A or whatever they're called now have the same add on with it's non transforming Prime?

griffin
24th October 2020, 08:21 PM
Wasn't the vehicle covering for Hound also a single scene in the cartoon, when they were driving somewhere underwater in the ocean... and then, never seen again?
That rarely used accessory (only able to use it in vehicle mode, and the non-covered vehicle form is what fans recognise as Hound) would have made the price for Hound a lot more than it needed to be as well.

Accessories, yes... but make sure they are worth the inclusion and expense for buyers to get some use out of them, like their weapons, display stand, or a human companion.

griffin
30th November 2020, 08:28 PM
A new batch of listings from Walmart in the US, that could end up being actual toy releases (it is never guaranteed).

Netflix wave 3 (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/11/28/netflix-war-for-cybertron-voyager-class-new-walmart-listings-425002) - Voyager Battlefield Optimus Primal, Voyager Battlefield Seeker.

Headmaster "reissues" wave 2 (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/11/28/walmart-retro-headmasters-highbrow-weirdwolf-skullcruncher-new-listings-424994) - Wierdwolf, Skullcruncher, Highbrow. (that covers the remaining 3 of the regular sized 1986 Headmasters)

R.E.D. wave 3? (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/11/29/new-walmart-listings-for-transformers-r-e-d-redeco-megatron-and-beast-wars-optimus-primal-425007) - Optimus Primal, redeco Megatron.

griffin
15th December 2020, 08:36 PM
Some possible Kingdom figures (https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/12/13/war-for-cybertron-kingdom-core-class-soundwave-and-voyager-class-rhinox-tigatron-ean-numbers-425938) - Voyager Rhinox, Voyager Tigatron, Core Class Soundwave.

griffin
5th January 2021, 12:08 AM
More possible Kingdom toys (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/02/transformers-kingdom-new-listings-scorponok-waspinator-pipes-rhinox-galvatron-and-more-426894)...

Core Class Soundwave
Core Class Dracodon

Deluxe class Scorponok (most likely Beast Wars)
Deluxe Class Wheeljack
Deluxe Class Wingfinger
Deluxe Class Tracks
Deluxe Class Shadow Panther
Deluxe Class Pipes
Deluxe Class Slammer
Deluxe Class Waspinator

Voyager Class Rhinox
Voyager Class Tigatron

Leader Class Galvatron

griffin
6th January 2021, 08:58 PM
Product listings have been found in America from the Walmart or Target computers (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/04/new-transformers-product-numbers-for-2021-botbots-monopoly-transformers-and-studio-series-426959), of what could be another Monopoly game for Transformers... which has a current Hasbro product number, so isn't (shouldn't be) a re-release of an older version.
Actually, since it HAS a Hasbro product number, it won't be one produced by the two companies that have licenses to produce themed Monopoly games. (almost all themed Monopoly games are not produced by Hasbro... as Hasbro produces larger minimum quantities to sell around the world, while the themed sets are small runs that are too small for Hasbro to care about, to sell mostly sell in specialty stores or in a single country if it is a geographical theme)
This could either be a good quality version from Hasbro in-house with fans in mind, or a really cheap version to sell by the millions around the world.

The 2007 Transformers Monopoly set (with Dreamwave art on the box, and the board folds in half) was produced by a company called USAOpoly (looks like it could have re-released in 2013 with new box deco).
The 2015 Transformers Monopoly set (with Gen1 toy character art on the box, and the board folds into quarters) was produced by a company called Winning Moves.
The 2017 Transformers Premium/Deluxe Monopoly set (plastic sides fold open to reveal playing track, with original artwork in the middle) was also produced by Winning Moves (for about US$300-500!).
(my searches also came up with a Monopoly Junior Transformers set, but it looks like a "knock off" with bad artwork and branding on the box, with no company logos anywhere, and really bad "engrish" product description on the back)

Also... a new Studio Series listing, that could just be a re-release of Dropkick, in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line (if these product listings were found at a US Target store).



Monopoly Transformers – Product number: F1660 – MSRP $19.99

TRA Studio series Dropkick Dino Product number: F2260 – MSRP: $19.99

DaptoDog
8th January 2021, 07:30 AM
Possible first look at a new MP Thundercracker (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/07/possible-first-look-at-masterpiece-thundercracker-2-0-426998) using the new MP Starscream mold. If true these repaints are coming faster than most expected.

Sinnertwin
8th January 2021, 01:05 PM
Possible first look at a new MP Thundercracker (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/07/possible-first-look-at-masterpiece-thundercracker-2-0-426998) using the new MP Starscream mold. If true these repaints are coming faster than most expected.

The opening credits pose is quite nostalgic too.

DELTAprime
8th January 2021, 06:40 PM
Hopefully, for you MP collects, Takara will make Thundercracker, Skywarp, Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet all general retail this time around and not limited exclusives.

Sinnertwin
9th January 2021, 10:52 PM
Hopefully, for you MP collects, Takara will make Thundercracker, Skywarp, Thrust, Dirge and Ramjet all general retail this time around and not limited exclusives.

But then how can they charge more for the same toy in a different colour scheme made by the same people in the same factory?

griffin
10th January 2021, 10:34 AM
But then how can they charge more for the same toy in a different colour scheme made by the same people in the same factory?

Each production run has a base cost (setting up, test run, etc) to factor in on top of the cost of materials and labour, so then the more units that are produced, the cheaper it is per unit... which is why exclusives can be more expensive, as the base cost is spread across less units.

griffin
10th January 2021, 01:55 PM
Images have surfaced of four redeco Deluxe Generations toys, that could be upcoming Selects or Netflix toys, but are yet to be officially revealed.
These were loose samples, so could have been leaked images from the factory or from a Hasbro employee.
We have two "rust" redecos of Barricade (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/06/possible-first-look-at-sparkless-zombie-rust-barricade-and-clear-purple-paleotrex-426977) and Ironhide (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/06/possible-first-look-at-rusty-siege-ironhide-and-kingdom-cheetor-redeco-426986), as well as redecos of Cheetor (said to be toy accurate colouring) and Paleotrex (said to be Sparkless).

griffin
10th January 2021, 02:15 PM
With Earthrise now over, one question that will probably never be answered is, what was WFC-E28 meant to be?
According to one person dropping a lot of plausible leaks for 2021 (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/im-drunk-and-from-leak-squad-i-quit-it-and-here-it-is-on-a-throwaway.1205827/), they claim that it was meant to be another Sideswipe... possibly a remould into an earth mode.

Sinnertwin
10th January 2021, 04:45 PM
Each production run has a base cost (setting up, test run, etc) to factor in on top of the cost of materials and labour, so then the more units that are produced, the cheaper it is per unit... which is why exclusives can be more expensive, as the base cost is spread across less units.

Its funny how the cost suddenly jumps when TT designate them as exclusives, isn't it?

While the base costs may be the same ( which after the 1st run should be streamlined anyway) everything else isn't.
You're not investing in R & D, you're using less raw material, less packaging, less man hours, you're not creating new moulds to inject, all you're literally doing is pulling the moulds out of storage and changing colours.

nalops
10th January 2021, 04:53 PM
With Earthrise now over, one question that will probably never be answered is, what was WFC-E28 meant to be?
According to one person dropping a lot of plausible leaks for 2021 (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/im-drunk-and-from-leak-squad-i-quit-it-and-here-it-is-on-a-throwaway.1205827/), they claim that it was meant to be another Sideswipe... possibly a remould into an earth mode.

While I guess we'll never know what E28 actually would've been, there is a 2020 WFC release that never got a number: Alternate Universe Optimus.

dirge
10th January 2021, 05:09 PM
Its funny how the cost suddenly jumps when TT designate them as exclusives, isn't it?

While the base costs may be the same ( which after the 1st run should be streamlined anyway) everything else isn't.
You're not investing in R & D, you're using less raw material, less packaging, less man hours, you're not creating new moulds to inject, all you're literally doing is pulling the moulds out of storage and changing colours.

The costs include:

- designing the new packaging art
- designing the paint deco
- creating test shots etc to see how the repaint looks, ferrying them back and forth from the factory to the head office in Japan
- signing a contract with the factory, negotiating whatever has to be negotiated (and possibly a second contract for the box!)

There could be other costs. And while this stuff is bread and butter for a company like TakaraTomy, if a designer takes two weeks of working time to finalise that redeco, there's a cost on the books for that.

Granted, these costs ARE a lot lower than a new mould, but these costs are spread across a much lower production run for exclusives than mass release toys. I have no idea what the ratio of a mass release to a limited release is, but if you compare how many ER Cliffjumpers made it to Australia - likely 4 figures - vs the few hundred Hubcaps (and factor in that not all countries will have gotten Hubcap), I wouldn't be surprised if it's 10:1 or higher. $0.05 repaint cost per toy on a mass release toy means $0.50 per toy for it's limited repaint.

(I am just using Cliffjumper vs Hubcap as an example, I know we're talking MPs).

griffin
16th January 2021, 06:01 PM
An image of a toy is being claimed to be WFC Deep Cover (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/15/possible-first-look-at-war-for-cybertron-deep-cover-427368).... a black & blue Siege Sideswipe.

griffin
17th January 2021, 06:50 PM
Possibly two of 2021's GEN Selects toys have been found listed somewhere (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/16/transformers-generations-selects-g2-ramjet-and-transmutate-product-codes-information-427403), but they have product codes from middle of last year... so maybe they were planned to be out in 2020 but were pushed back to this year (or they have been cancelled, as the source of the listing was not given, so it could just be old preliminary listings that haven't been deleted yet).




Tra Gen selects Voyager G2 Ramjet (16 in a case)
Product Number: F0465
EAN: 5010993828715
Tra Gen selects Deluxe Transmutate (24 in a case)
Product Number: F0483
EAN: 5010993828685



Ramjet is obviously another use of the Ramjet/Sandstorm mould. Transmutate is a complete unknown though. GEN Selects have never had a new mould (yet), so is it a redeco of an existing WFC toy... or did they plan to re-issue the previous Transmutate toy from 2006?

If it is a redeco of a WFC toy (or even a PWT toy), what mould would work? Because a fan-focussed toy should be more authentic than a retail release, and Transmutate didn't have an alt-mode. (FunPub did a Transmutate toy using the TFPrime Arcee motorcycle mould, but it was designated to be her pre-Beast Wars mode on Cybertron... if the GEN Selects toy was a Deluxe motorcycle, the last one we had was Wreckgar/Groove, which was probably a bit too bulky because it was a combiner limb.)

JJJ
17th January 2021, 07:35 PM
Never heard of Transmutate before, so I looked it up.

That's hideous.

So one of the silly skeletal things from Kingdom should do, I guess.

1AZRAEL1
17th January 2021, 09:02 PM
Transmutate, might look like a mess, but is a great episode of Beast Wars. I hope if it is not just reusing one of the WFC figures. A re-release I'd be happy with, and even though I have it, I'd buy again.

i_amtrunks
17th January 2021, 10:39 PM
A motorcycle makes sense with how spindly transmutate was in the show. It'll be interesting to see what they end of doing or of it'll be a half finished piece of garbage like the satellite soundwave figure from the selects or whatever it is called line.

nalops
20th January 2021, 02:09 PM
Looks like Generations Selects Deep Cover is real. Twitter user Cheetimus has shown off pics. Seems like it'll be officially revealed soon.

https://twitter.com/Cheetimus/status/1351717682433802241?s=19

Sorry for the language.

Paulbot
20th January 2021, 04:12 PM
Was kinda wondering if it would be the rumoured Earthmode Sideswipe. That it’s this one makes me a little less interested.

Tha_Phantom
20th January 2021, 04:29 PM
Was kinda wondering if it would be the rumoured Earthmode Sideswipe.

They'll probably do Clampdown in the Earth mould to trigger my OCD.

JJJ
20th January 2021, 06:03 PM
People with supposed connections keep saying (over on TFW2005) that Earth Sideswipe is dead and buried.

DELTAprime
21st January 2021, 10:34 PM
With Earthrise now over, one question that will probably never be answered is, what was WFC-E28 meant to be?
According to one person dropping a lot of plausible leaks for 2021 (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/im-drunk-and-from-leak-squad-i-quit-it-and-here-it-is-on-a-throwaway.1205827/), they claim that it was meant to be another Sideswipe... possibly a remould into an earth mode.

I wonder what the chances are of the Sweeps being real? I just bought two more Scourge's today to have as Sweeps. I won't open them for a little while in case it turns out there are dedicated Sweeps as I can return them if they are unopened. Still, how different could movie-accurate Sweeps be from Scourge himself???

1AZRAEL1
21st January 2021, 11:26 PM
I'm still surprised they didn't do an MP Deepcover. I'm tempted to get one of my G2 Sideswipe redone

Paulbot
22nd January 2021, 08:59 AM
I'm still surprised they didn't do an MP Deepcover. I'm tempted to get one of my G2 Sideswipe redone

I'm still surprised they didn't do an MP Deepcover yet

Although, given Lambor was one of the first MPs in the second design phase, a Lambor/Sideswipe V2.0 isn't out of the question...

griffin
23rd January 2021, 11:49 PM
The Walmart app in America has apparently yielded a list of new Cyberverse toys, noted as 4th year toys (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/22/transformers-cyberverse-season-4-toyline-listing-discovered-427706)... which if true, would relate to the two TV movies that were announced a couple months ago.
Since there is a heavy presence of Dinobots, I guess we will be seeing them feature in one or both movies.




Transformers Cyberverse Ultimate S4 Hot Rod
Transformers Cyberverse Ultra S4 Sludge
Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe S4 Slug
Transformers Cyberverse Deluxe S4 Cheetor
Transformers Cyberverse Ultra S4 Ramjet
Transformers Cyberverse Ultimate S4 Volcanicus
Transformers Cyberverse Roll And Combine Assortment
Transformers Cyberverse Roll And Transform Assortment
Transformers Dino Optimus Prime
Transformers Dinobot Defenders
Transformers Dinobot Strikers
Transformers Botbots Dino Store

JJJ
24th January 2021, 10:50 AM
More Cyberverse deluxes, yay!!! :)

griffin
24th January 2021, 03:34 PM
With Earthrise now over, one question that will probably never be answered is, what was WFC-E28 meant to be?
According to one person dropping a lot of plausible leaks for 2021 (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/im-drunk-and-from-leak-squad-i-quit-it-and-here-it-is-on-a-throwaway.1205827/), they claim that it was meant to be another Sideswipe... possibly a remould into an earth mode.

People are claiming (or assuming) two re-uses of the Kingdom BW Megatron T-rex mould (the Beast Machines T-Wrecks, and a Crossover with Jurassic Park), and if either of those are true, the new head may have leaked out on one of the Megatron toys found in America (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/23/transformers-kingdom-megatron-head-variant-found-427767).
The Megatron head has pursed lips, while this alternate head has an open snarled mouth showing teeth.
If this alternate head is for a future redeco of Megatron, it is possible that there will be more out there in the wild, but probably not too many, so could end up being a very rare variant.
Often when there are multiple versions planned for a new mould, the toolings (the metal plates that has the plastic injected into it to create the parts for the toys) are built to produce all of the alternative future parts (like different heads, weapons, roof-lights, etc), but sections of the toolings are blocked off to only produce the parts that are needed for the current version being manufactured. However, sometimes the alternative parts still end up being made and get mixed up with the regular parts, and if it is something like a head that is almost identical, it might not be noticed by the people there putting the toys together.

http://toycollectors.com.au/bc14/p17.jpg

This could be a fun game... guess the toy from its sprue of parts. :p

Paulbot
24th January 2021, 03:55 PM
alternate head has an open snarled mouth showing teeth.

Sounds like a possible Toy-based version?

I recognise the parts but not sure of which use of the toy - a BotCon one?

SMHFConvoy
24th January 2021, 04:54 PM
Is that a botcon Primal Prime or Apex using the Cybertron Optimus Primal mold from the 2000's it's got that surfboard that the cyber planet key plugs into

nalops
24th January 2021, 05:02 PM
I think it's Primal Prime. Only one, that I can tell, that has a blue missile.

reillyd
1st February 2021, 12:07 PM
You know the character cards in Kingdom toys? I though that they?d only be cards of Wave 1 chars packed in wave 1. But I just got one of ?Autobot Ark?. So that seems pretty likely that there is a toy coming

nalops
1st February 2021, 12:21 PM
Wave 1 has Blackarachnia, Dinobot, Ark and Optimus Prime.

griffin
1st February 2021, 09:51 PM
Another Kingdom variant has been found (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/01/31/transformers-kingdom-optimus-primal-swords-color-variant-428062), which could be from an upcoming redeco toy - the swords for Voyager Optimus Primal are usually silver painted, but one person in America has found white painted swords with their toy. It's only a minor thing, but we'll see if the rumoured redeco has white painted swords.

griffin
3rd February 2021, 07:14 PM
Another sample of an unreleased toy (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/02/transformers-war-for-cybertron-siege-rusticon-in-hand-images-428174) has been obtained by one of those youtubers who has been showing off leaked toys... this one is being called Rusticon, but I don't know if that is its actual product name.
It looks like a toy that was lost out in the back yard and dug up years later, like in Toy Story... and even though that is probably the point of a "rusted bot" toy, it might not look too appealing on the shelf to regular shoppers if it shows up at regular retail.
(there have been suggestions that it is part of the 3rd wave of Netflix toys... which has a limited target, and a limited release)

griffin
7th February 2021, 06:55 PM
Part of a product listing has been leaked to a number of fansites (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/05/possible-new-transformers-war-for-cybertron-cyberververse-studio-series-rescue-bots-listings-428453), which could be true... but could also be made up, as most of it just lists assortment codes that are old and well known, along with a small number of items that I think have already been leaked somewhere.




TRA GEN WFC K TITAN CLASS ARK
TRA GEN WFC K COMMANDER CLASS RODIMUS PRIME
TRA TARGET LEADER T-WRECKS MAXIMAL TYRANNOSAURUS
TRA TARGET GEN WFC KINGDOM 4 PACK

griffin
7th February 2021, 08:11 PM
Another rumour being claimed (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-beast-wars-transmetal-figures-rumoured-for-reissue/45653/) is that there could be some reissue Transmetal Beast Wars toys (from back 1998).

This one feels like a bit of a stretch to me. Even though there have been a small number of reissues of 1980s toys, I don't think the toys of the late 1990s (Beast Era) have been used by Hasbro since the early 2000s of Armada and Universe. (TakaraTomy have recently reissued 2000 Beast Machines Air Attack Primal and 1999 Big Convoy)
The most recent use by Hasbro of a toy from close to that era (that I can think of) is the 2000 RID Megatron toy used for BotCon 2016 as Transmetal Megatron.

Going back further...
2014 - FunPub was able to use the Japanese 1998 BWII Dirgegun toy for Thrustinator. (the same year as Transmetals from Hasbro... but 7 years ago)
2013 - FunPub used the Japanese 1999 BWNeo Big Convoy toy for Ultra Mammoth)

2005 - BotCon used the 1998 Fuzor Buzzclaw mould... which I think could be the last time Hasbro used a "Beast Wars" mould. It was only 7 years after it was a regular retail toy by Hasbro, so could have been easier to track down... but I get the feeling that the Hasbro Beast Wars years of moulds (1996 to 1999) are off-limits, and remind me if I'm missing something, but in the last 16 years, that one Fuzor mould was the only Hasbro Beast Wars toy re-used by Hasbro, which to me seems a little unusual (if true).

DELTAprime
8th February 2021, 01:42 AM
One hand I can see Hasbro wanting to reissue them given how hard they are pivoting from G1 to BW. On the other hand, I think they would rather just make new moulds to sell of the TM characters allowing for a more mass audience to sell to.

Tha_Phantom
8th February 2021, 10:32 AM
Perhaps these reissues are instead of them doing CHUG Transmetals. I don't think any TM stuff has leaked for Kingdom.

Zommael
8th February 2021, 04:35 PM
The last time we saw a large number of Beast Wars toys reissued was for Armada and Universe in 2004-2005. I had assumed that the toolings had degraded since that point, but it may simply be that Hasbro decided to let them rest for a bit and had other priorities. Megatron, Cheetor, Airrazor, Rhinox, and Terrorsaur were all (slightly) retooled for their Armada releases, but I don't imagine that would have involved altering the original toolings.

Paul Agnew
8th February 2021, 05:03 PM
Terrorsaur and Triceradon were repainted into Strafe and Slug for the Walmart Age of Extinction line.

DELTAprime
8th February 2021, 05:10 PM
The last time we saw a large number of Beast Wars toys reissued was for Armada and Universe in 2004-2005.

Actually, it was in 2007 for the Beast Wars 10th Anniversary line in the US and Beast Wars Telemocha line in Japan.

griffin
8th February 2021, 07:19 PM
Actually, it was in 2007 for the Beast Wars 10th Anniversary line in the US and Beast Wars Telemocha line in Japan.

Ah yes, those 6 toys that came with parts of Transmutate, from 2006, and the Japanese ones in 2007 as BW started there a year later.
I had a look through the tfu.info site (http://www.tfu.info/year/96index.htm), and since those reissue toys in 2006-2007, only the Terrorsaur mould has been used (in 2014) from the pre-Transmetal moulds (1996 & 1997).

DELTAprime
9th February 2021, 05:44 PM
Some more evidence of SS86 Wreck-gar and Sweeps has been posted on TFW. Given the SS line is about screen accuracy, I'm really not sure how you would differentiate a Sweep from Scourge.

https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/08/transformers-studio-series-86-voyager-wreck-gar-sweep-product-numbers-428607

Tha_Phantom
9th February 2021, 06:30 PM
Given the SS line is about screen accuracy, I'm really not sure how you would differentiate a Sweep from Scourge.

I would not be surprised at all if it's a straight reissue of the Scourge figure but different background and new name on the box.

DELTAprime
10th February 2021, 06:01 PM
I would not be surprised at all if it's a straight reissue of the Scourge figure but different background and new name on the box.

Malibu Stacy has some new cardboard. lol

DaptoDog
10th February 2021, 10:47 PM
MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime image (https://m.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/a.447442995321646/3750441251688454/?type=3&source=48) via Planet Iacon's Facebook page.

I recently got the ThreeZero versions of both Prime and Bumblebee, which look magnificent together. Might get this to keep in alt mode with my MPM 7 Bumblebee which at the moment is the odd one out in my collection.

nalops
11th February 2021, 12:24 AM
MPM Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime image (https://m.facebook.com/Planetiacon.stfu/photos/a.447442995321646/3750441251688454/?type=3&source=48) via Planet Iacon's Facebook page.

I recently got the ThreeZero versions of both Prime and Bumblebee, which look magnificent together. Might get this to keep in alt mode with my MPM 7 Bumblebee which at the moment is the odd one out in my collection.

I'd been wondering what the next MPM figure was or if the line was even still continuing. Keeping expectations low but would be a cool addition if real.

Krayt
11th February 2021, 12:35 AM
I wonder if they made a new fig, or are just US releasing the Japanese Legendary Optimus Prime

griffin
13th February 2021, 09:58 PM
Product listings that may be true...

Studio Series Voyager Thrust (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/08/transformers-studio-series-bumblebee-movie-thrust-product-number-428610) (Bumblebee Movie) - when they revealed Starscream, multiple redecos were expected... so this could be true.

Studio Series Voyager Wreckgar & Sweep (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/08/transformers-studio-series-86-voyager-wreck-gar-sweep-product-numbers-428607) (1986 movie) - The Sweep would be an easy minor redeco... but saying that, could be a rather lazy release so quickly after Scourge, especially if they are screen accurate, which aren't significantly different to Scourge.

griffin
14th February 2021, 11:17 AM
We've heard from Hasbro that the Buzzworthy Bumblebee "line" will have more products released later in the year, and a possible product has been alleged to have been found listed somewhere (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/08/new-tra-bb-evergreen-warrior-multipack-listing-revealed-428605). If this is item is true, it shows that this new packaging label will continue to be a mix-n-match of toys from other Transformers toylines, as this one notes "Evergreen (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Evergreen)", which is a term used for generic versions of the more iconic characters, which pop up in toylines like Authentics and Cyber Series.

griffin
14th February 2021, 02:21 PM
Images of the purple Kingdom Paleotrex toy that first surfaced a few weeks ago (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/13/transformers-kingdom-purple-paleotrex-in-hand-images-428853)... which I'm still not sure what it is for, if it is legit. It has been speculated that this could be a Netflix toy.

JJJ
24th February 2021, 04:42 PM
Never heard of Transmutate before, so I looked it up.

That's hideous.

So one of the silly skeletal things from Kingdom should do, I guess.

So it would seem my guess was accurate (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/selects-transmutate.1209137/).

griffin
25th February 2021, 08:20 PM
At the beginning of the month there was this rumour...


Another rumour being claimed (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-beast-wars-transmetal-figures-rumoured-for-reissue/45653/) is that there could be some reissue Transmetal Beast Wars toys (from back 1998).

This one feels like a bit of a stretch to me. Even though there have been a small number of reissues of 1980s toys, I don't think the toys of the late 1990s (Beast Era) have been used by Hasbro since the early 2000s of Armada and Universe. (TakaraTomy have recently reissued 2000 Beast Machines Air Attack Primal and 1999 Big Convoy)
The most recent use by Hasbro of a toy from close to that era (that I can think of) is the 2000 RID Megatron toy used for BotCon 2016 as Transmetal Megatron.

Going back further...
2014 - FunPub was able to use the Japanese 1998 BWII Dirgegun toy for Thrustinator. (the same year as Transmetals from Hasbro... but 7 years ago)
2013 - FunPub used the Japanese 1999 BWNeo Big Convoy toy for Ultra Mammoth)

2005 - BotCon used the 1998 Fuzor Buzzclaw mould... which I think could be the last time Hasbro used a "Beast Wars" mould. It was only 7 years after it was a regular retail toy by Hasbro, so could have been easier to track down... but I get the feeling that the Hasbro Beast Wars years of moulds (1996 to 1999) are off-limits, and remind me if I'm missing something, but in the last 16 years, that one Fuzor mould was the only Hasbro Beast Wars toy re-used by Hasbro, which to me seems a little unusual (if true).

Today someone in America has found some new Beast Wars listings on the Walmart system (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/02/24/walmart-listings-for-vintage-beast-wars-line-429182), which could be the rumour above about Transmetal re-issues... or maybe it is like the Retro Headmasters, in that they are recent (Kingdom) toys released in 1990s Beast Wars packaging?


TRA GEN BW Vintage Optimus Primal
EAN: 5010993869862
Product Number: F1621


TRA GEN BW Vintage Trex Megatron
EAN: 5010993867103
Product Number: F1622


TRA GEN BW Vintage Rattrap
EAN: 5010993867141


TRA GEN BW Vintage Cheetor
EAN: 5010993866953
Product Number: F1620


Megatron and Optimus Primal are listed for $49.97, Cheetor for $22.97, and no price for Rattrap. No images yet but hopefully we will get more information soon.



Based on the prices that are being listed, it's difficult to expect it to be the Kingdom toys option, because $50 is the Leader price point in America, and Kingdom Optimus Primal was only a Voyager (which is $30 in America).
And if they are all reissues, Cheetor being at the current Deluxe price would also mean the $50 figures would need to be Leader class size toys (which would be the old Ultra class from Beast Wars), and that would be the first non-Transmetal toys from 1996.

The thing that is throwing me (and others) is the "vintage" in the product names, as past reissues didn't have "vintage" in those product names, while the Retro Headmasters had "Retro" in their product names.

I guess time will tell, on how wrong I am on those guesses.

reillyd
4th March 2021, 02:34 PM
TFW2005 has the Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/03/transformers-kingdom-commander-rodimus-prime-first-look-429561) first looks, and appears to be from a retailer/distributor listing so is quite low-res. Disturbingly though it doesn?t show any cab, and makes him look like just an upscale Hot Rod with a sword.

Paulbot
4th March 2021, 03:06 PM
TFW2005 has the Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/03/transformers-kingdom-commander-rodimus-prime-first-look-429561) first looks, and appears to be from a retailer/distributor listing so is quite low-res. Disturbingly though it doesn?t show any cab, and makes him look like just an upscale Hot Rod with a sword.

Image 1: Robot turns into vehicle. Image 2: Armed assault platform base turns into trailer. Image 3: Trailer and car combiner. End result: $150 please

Tetsuwan Convoy
4th March 2021, 04:41 PM
TFW2005 has the Kingdom Commander Class Rodimus Prime (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/03/transformers-kingdom-commander-rodimus-prime-first-look-429561) first looks, and appears to be from a retailer/distributor listing so is quite low-res. Disturbingly though it doesn?t show any cab, and makes him look like just an upscale Hot Rod with a sword.

The text in the bottom of the picture says it changes from a robot into a Trailer truck. There has to be more(the trailer) hiding somewhere. I wonder if they've taken a few cues from the original plan of Rodimus, like when the G1 toy was thought to be a lot larger (IIRC). Like the G1 never had a mode where it would've worked without the trailer, whereas this one does. Much like MP Rodimus Prime.

Its gonna hve to be a pretty specatular trailer though to make that commander level

Bidoofdude
4th March 2021, 07:02 PM
The text in the bottom of the picture says it changes from a robot into a Trailer truck. There has to be more(the trailer) hiding somewhere. I wonder if they've taken a few cues from the original plan of Rodimus, like when the G1 toy was thought to be a lot larger (IIRC). Like the G1 never had a mode where it would've worked without the trailer, whereas this one does. Much like MP Rodimus Prime.

Its gonna hve to be a pretty specatular trailer though to make that commander level

Hope he’s not comically sized and towers over the others. POTP Rodimus (which I like) is already quite big and he’s only a leader with most of his budget dedicated towards integrating Hot Rod.

I find the boxy car mode here really hilarious, if they just did that with no trailer, it would be hilarious.

Paulbot
4th March 2021, 07:55 PM
Most likely the robot mode will be as tall as the unseen Voyager Galvatron. So probably somewhere between Scourge and Cyclonus and a good two heads taller than Hot Rod.

griffin
5th March 2021, 07:07 PM
A black redeco of Siege Ironhide has shown up (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/04/transformers-war-for-cybertron-quintesson-guard-in-hand-images-429596), which people are claiming to be "Quintesson Guard" from the Netflix cartoon, and if it is a legit toy, would probably be in the next wave of Netflix toys.

nalops
5th March 2021, 08:44 PM
Does seem to have a little green Quintesson logo. Probably will come out with the Sparkless Barricade that's also been doing the rounds.

DELTAprime
5th March 2021, 09:57 PM
When I read black redeco I really wanted it to more Diaclone like.

Paulbot
14th March 2021, 01:24 AM
In package but not official photos of four Netflix wave three deluxes

https://twitter.com/jalaguy/status/1370717410341367808?s=21

Running out of inspiration for names this wave

griffin
16th March 2021, 10:26 PM
People are claiming that this image has part of Kingdom Galvatron and T-Wrecks in it (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/15/possible-first-look-at-transformers-kingdom-galvatron-429988)... which I think have both been rumoured at some stage.

Paulbot
17th March 2021, 08:18 AM
People are claiming that this image has part of Kingdom Galvatron and T-Wrecks in it (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/15/possible-first-look-at-transformers-kingdom-galvatron-429988)... which I think have both been rumoured at some stage.

And a full body shot has been circulating this morning https://twitter.com/halleyhanna/status/1371920502588121094?s=21

Robzy
17th March 2021, 02:12 PM
Looks great, apart from the battle damage

JJJ
17th March 2021, 04:30 PM
And a full body shot has been circulating this morning https://twitter.com/halleyhanna/status/1371920502588121094?s=21

Ooooh...

Yup, that'll do nicely. Veeeery nicely indeed.

I presume from the peg-looking thing that those shoulder pylons are mis-transformed and will actually peg in to be vertical.

Paulbot
17th March 2021, 08:00 PM
I'd think so. I doubt he comes with two gun/ships either, this is still an unofficial photo.

reillyd
17th March 2021, 08:06 PM
Does anyone know what size class he is? Without another figure to scale against I can?t quite work it out from the photos.

Given that we already have a not too shabby Titans Return Galvatron, I was kind of hoping for a larger one to go with Rodimus Prime. I?d even hoped the Commander class figure might be Galvatron until the news broke it was Rodimus.

DELTAprime
17th March 2021, 08:07 PM
Does anyone know what size class he is? Without another figure to scale against I can?t quite work it out from the photos.

Given that we already have a not too shabby Titans Return Galvatron, I was kind of hoping for a larger one to go with Rodimus Prime. I?d even hoped the Commander class figure might be Galvatron until the news broke it was Rodimus.

I believe he is meant to be a Wave 3 Voyager.

JJJ
17th March 2021, 08:36 PM
I'd think so. I doubt he comes with two gun/ships either, this is still an unofficial photo.

And yet the rumour-mongers leakers usual sources say that he does, and that they combine into one big rail-gun.

nalops
17th March 2021, 09:28 PM
The early leak (which hasn't been wrong so far) I've seen points to Galvatron being a Leader class so should hopefully scale well with Scourge, Cyclonus and Rodimus.

JJJ
17th March 2021, 09:31 PM
The early leak (which hasn't been wrong so far) I've seen points to Galvatron being a Leader class so should hopefully scale well with Scourge, Cyclonus and Rodimus.

The thread on TFW has people declaring it to be of voyager size and leader price, which is becoming a thing these days. But it isn't like the price is going to play any part in my decision to purchase.

nalops
17th March 2021, 09:37 PM
Should end up being close to Doubledealer I'd imagine. Guess we'll find out soon enough.

griffin
20th March 2021, 03:29 PM
Another leaked image of what could be Kingdom Galvatron (or a very cunning 3P mob promoting an upcoming product of theirs and letting people think it is from Kingdom to get the publicity), of the cannon alt-mode (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/19/transformers-kingom-galvatron-cannon-mode-first-look-430183).
If it is really for Kingdom, the cannon barrel sticks out a loooong way. I hope that the grey connector is not meant to be there, so that the orange barrel plugs straight into the body of the cannon.
I like the way the treads are sticking out at an angle.. but then, it gives me a Marvel Comic Straxus vehicle vibe (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Straxusaltmode.jpg)... it wouldn't take much resculpting of the alt-mode, but the robot mode would need a lot of work.

JJJ
21st March 2021, 09:14 PM
If you've seen the bizarre blurred picture of the toy in cannon mode, you'll notice that the grey butt of the particle cannon is not jammed into the front of the thing, but is instead clipped to the top, behind the big purple spike (and I'm sure there are other, better places to put it). Putting the two images together, along with the new properly-transformed upper-half pic... Well, my "that'll do nicely" above becomes a firm "Give. NAOW!"

You aren't the first to associate that alt-mode shape with Straxus, either. New Age just made a legends Galvy, and are retooling it into a Straxus that looks very close to the image you link to.

griffin
22nd March 2021, 08:01 PM
Yes, that blurry photo does show the orange barrel plugged straight into the body of the cannon... which makes it look a little better at the front end, but the side view makes the back end look bad.

Another image leaked (https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-images-of-kingdom-leader-galvatron-including-alt-mode-and-matrix-chain/45760/), of the robot mode with matrix and chain.
With so much leaked about Galvatron, Hasbro may end up revealing it officially before their April fan-fest.

High_Q
23rd March 2021, 12:05 PM
More photos of the leaked Kingdom Galvatron from TFW2005 (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/03/22/transformers-kingdom-leader-class-galvatron-in-hand-images-430255).

The lower body proportions look stumpy. I want to think it's just the photos or the result of mis-transformation, but maybe the designers want to make Galvatron's lower half be similarly proportioned to Cyclonus'.:(

Omega Metro
23rd March 2021, 12:34 PM
Not impressed by what I’m seeing so far. He looks more like one of those ‘kiddie’ Transformers that Kmart sells. 2 step changers;)

Zommael
23rd March 2021, 05:04 PM
It's been confirmed that the photos were taken with a fish eye lens which is seriously distorting the proportions. I'll wait for the official pics.

reillyd
23rd March 2021, 09:28 PM
It's been confirmed that the photos were taken with a fish eye lens which is seriously distorting the proportions. I'll wait for the official pics.

Do fish-eye lenses also add blue-grey battle damage? Because if they don?t, then Hasbro is messing with us.

Zommael
24th March 2021, 09:42 AM
Do fish-eye lenses also add blue-grey battle damage? Because if they don?t, then Hasbro is messing with us.

No, and I didn't say that they did.

JJJ
24th March 2021, 12:41 PM
Yeah no. These (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/kingdom-galvatron-first-look.1210189/) pictures at the start of the TFW2005 thread (including the original partial pics) are definitely not taken with a fish-eye lens.

Still looks brilliant to me.

reillyd
24th March 2021, 12:54 PM
It looks like a seagull crapped on Galvatron because they thought he was a statue. I?m *really* hoping those battle damage paint rubs off with alcohol

Sinnertwin
24th March 2021, 06:57 PM
Quiet a disproportionate little spud with a huge cannon, isn't he ?

Seraphim Prime
25th March 2021, 11:05 AM
Quiet a disproportionate little spud with a huge cannon, isn't he ?

He's just compensating

griffin
28th March 2021, 02:24 AM
Amazon Australia could be considered an official source, but with these three items not yet revealed by Hasbro... and with some really weird descriptions... I think I'll leave these as "rumour" until the names and details are verified.
One of the three items has a Hasbro product number of an item that is being released in October, while the other two of them have Hasbro product numbers that suggest that they shouldn't be out until the end of the year as well.
(Screenshots of the three listings at the end, in case the listings are removed for being waaaay too early)

F1809 - Hasbro Transformers Takara Tomy Generations Selects Leader Gavaltron Action Figure (https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08YJVW2D5) - $91.70.

Hasbro Transformer Takara Tomy Generations Selects Leader Gavaltron Action Figure is a Leader Class scaled figure that stands 7-inches tall in robot mode and transforms from robot to Race Car and back. Heavily futuristic space based and included Cyber Keys. Designs based on the planet of origin Each unlocked pop out weapons and action features in each toy once plugged into the key slot. These cyber keys were interchangable with any other figures in the line.

(note the spelling in the title for Galvatron & if the description is true, it would have to be a homage or reissue of Galvatron from the Cybertron series, in which he was a race car).

F2813 - Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Golden Deluxe Terrorsaur Action Figur (https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08YK6YYPW) - $38.96

Experience the excitement of transformers conversion play with this transformers authentic Golden Deluxe Terrorsaur Action Figur. Transformers Authentic figures bring the exciting conversion play you can come to expect from a Transformers figure. Transformers Authentic figures are a great way to start any Transformers collection.

(I don't think Terrorsaur was ever on any of the rumoured Kingdom listings, so maybe a reissue? ... the description is mostly generic text, so I don't think this is actually an "Authentics" toy, as the title says it is part of WFC)

F2820 - Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Golden Deluxe Ranger Puffer Action Figur (https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08YK51RKT) - $77.23

Experience the excitement of transformers conversion play with this transformers authentic Golden Deluxe Ranger Puffer Action Figur. Transformers Authentic figures bring the exciting conversion play you can come to expect from a Transformers figure. Transformers Authentic figures are a great way to start any Transformers collection.

(the name has to be wrong or a codename... and I think the "K Golden" might mean "Kingdom Golden" maybe like those Golden Lagoon toys... the price is either way off, or the title has the wrong size class)

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/032701.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/032702.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2021/032703.jpg

DELTAprime
28th March 2021, 10:00 AM
Ranger Puffer? I wonder if it's a Power Rangers crossover?

Paulbot
28th March 2021, 11:15 AM
That Galvatron description... is a description of the Cybertron toy. (Aka a mistake)

JJJ
28th March 2021, 11:15 AM
The leak thread over on TFW has mention of a Road Ranger (a Gobot, apparently) re-colour of Huffer. So perhaps this is a two-pack of Huffer re-paints.

nalops
28th March 2021, 11:31 AM
That Galvatron description... is a description of the Cybertron toy. (Aka a mistake)

Could definitely be a mistake but the Japanese Selects line has been crazy so it could genuinely be a new version of Cybertron Megatron ala Super Megatron.

reillyd
30th March 2021, 10:20 PM
Well if its Kingdom, I?m hoping that Puffer turns out to be a poisonous puffer fish rather than a typo on Huffer.

griffin
30th March 2021, 11:53 PM
Could definitely be a mistake but the Japanese Selects line has been crazy so it could genuinely be a new version of Cybertron Megatron ala Super Megatron.

Japan have indeed done a few obscure reissues in recent years, from the late 90s to early 00s, so the Unicron Trilogy probably isn't out of the question... but GEN Selects in Japan has been contemporary moulds, so maybe it is a toy that homages Cybertron Galvatron and someone put in place-holder info that they googled.

Maybe the next chapter after this revisit of the Beast era is homages to the Unicron Trilogy era (Armada, Energon, Cybertron). I think with Generations, the next "big" era to homage would be that one, as Beast Machines was one of the least popular series to Transformers fans (back then, and now), while RID/Car Robots was mostly a mix-n-match of existing toys, leaving only a small number of new moulds (only about 12) to homage (probably not enough to use as the foundation of a whole new chapter).

Combiner Wars - includes homages to mostly 1985-86 (combiners)
Titans Return - includes homages to mostly 1987-88 (headmasters & targetmasters)
Power of the Primes - some homages to 1988 (pretenders)
Siege & Earthrise - includes homages to 1989-90 (micromasters)
Kingdom - includes homages to 1986 and 1996 (Movie and Beast Wars)

(I have to be careful with my guesses, in case I get something correct and someone at Hasbro thinks I am leaking info from one of my sources, even though I didn't actually get any info.)

griffin
5th April 2021, 07:28 PM
In-hand images of what is said to be T-Wrecks (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/04/05/t-wrecks-in-hand-images-430943)... a redeco of Kingdom Beast Megatron, to homage the Beast Machines T-Wrecks toy (which was also a redeco of the Beast Wars Megatron toy).

reillyd
6th April 2021, 12:13 AM
Barney, Megatron, now T-Wrecks. Does the world really need more purple dinosaurs?

Zommael
6th April 2021, 08:23 PM
It's red.

DELTAprime
6th April 2021, 08:40 PM
In-hand images of what is said to be T-Wrecks (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/04/05/t-wrecks-in-hand-images-430943)... a redeco of Kingdom Beast Megatron, to homage the Beast Machines T-Wrecks toy (which was also a redeco of the Beast Wars Megatron toy).

Robot mode really looks lacking in paint apps.

griffin
6th April 2021, 08:58 PM
The T-Wrecks has been found listed on the American Target website (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/04/05/target-exclusives-t-wrecks-and-worlds-collide-multipack-information-430974), along with what could be the rumoured 4-pack... both appear to be Target exclusives in America.
I would expect (hope) that they are revealed by Hasbro on the fan-fest on the 9th, so that these "rumours" can be treated as official.


Transformers Leader Class T-Wrecks– $49.99 – DCPI 087-16-2849
Transformers “Worlds Collide Multipack” – $79.99 – DCPI 087-16-8265

Akky82
7th April 2021, 09:09 AM
Robot mode really looks lacking in paint apps.

Yep, needs more gold. Unfortunately unless I get a bigger house, I have a small list of about 17 characters I will grab for beast wars. Thought the fossilizers don't count, t-wrecks is an easy pass for me.

nalops
7th April 2021, 02:52 PM
More strange Amazon Australia listing have showed up. One is for a Voyager SS86 Wreck-Gar.

https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08TLVKN2V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_0DCFV9HMQRF3GCSM7P6D?_ encoding=UTF8&psc=1

The other is for a Galvatron Unicron figure?

https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Gavaltron-Unicron-Action/dp/B08YJB9PGR?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Turns out there are a lot more listings, more than I could possibly link in here, plus some don't work. If you want to see them, go to the Amazon AU Transformer section, click Generations and you'll see them all.

G1Optimal
7th April 2021, 03:11 PM
Some are expecting ranger puffer to be pipes

nalops
7th April 2021, 03:39 PM
There were so many I had to screenshot them. There's at least 30 listings of upcoming Transformers toys. I've added to Imgur and hopefully sharing the link to them works.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/183932405@N03/shares/2kex09

Tranceblade
7th April 2021, 03:39 PM
Pipes has a proper Kingdom listing.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3T7FC8
"Ranger Puffer" is priced like it's a two pack which might be interesting to see if they do an alternate Huffer deco.

Most interesting is the Sideswipe and Nightprowler set, of which Nightprowler is an unreleased Cheetor deco. Sideswipe could also be the rumoured Earth mode. Though it doesn't say, I'm expecting it to be a Golden Disk style Amazon Exclusive.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Sideswipe-Nightprowler/dp/B08SWJ25NL?ref_=ast_sto_dp

JJJ
7th April 2021, 05:20 PM
Okay, now I believe the leaks about Slammer & Tracks :)

DELTAprime
7th April 2021, 06:18 PM
How much you want to bet Project Bat is a GI Joe Transformer, not Batman?

Also I bet that Unicron Galvatron is a limited edition version of Leader Galvatron with Galvatron's ship and other accessories for Unicron's little clear display stand.

griffin
7th April 2021, 11:56 PM
The list compiled on tfw at this time (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/04/07/new-amazon-australia-transformers-listings-shattered-glass-and-golden-disk-figures-project-bat-and-more-431028) and the others that I could see on the Amazon page...


F0697 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: Voyager Starscream Action Figure - $48 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3SGXBW)

F0632 Tra Gen Project Park - $92 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Project-Action-Figure/dp/B08YJYY5BF) (Collaborative Jurassic Park Rexy)

F0792 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Voy 86 Wreck Gar Action Figure - $48 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Action/dp/B08TLVKN2V) - August

F1207 Hasbro Transformers Generations Prime Optimus Prime Action Figure - $92 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Optimus-Action/dp/B08YJH1596)

F1815 Hasbro Transformers Generations Selects Voyager Artfire Action Figure - $48 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Selects-Voyager/dp/B08YJ3QMZ6)

F0485 Hasbro Transformers Project Bat Action Figure - $92 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Project-Action-Figure/dp/B08YJWBBMQ) (collaborative figure)
"An oversized man bat with giant cloth wings - Perfect for batman storytelling"

F2704 Hasbro Transformers Deluxe Gold Bug Action Figure - $39 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Deluxe-Action-Figure/dp/B08YK49R8F)

F3003 Hasbro Transformers Commander Jetfire Action Figure - $160 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Commander-Jetfire-Action/dp/B08YJ9ZKWT)

F0793 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Voy 86 Sweep Action Figure - $48 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Action/dp/B08TM7DDJW)

F1809 Hasbro Transformers Takara Tomy Generations Selects Leader Gavaltron Action Figure - $92 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Selects-Gavaltron/dp/B08YJVW2D5)
(this was noted the other day, but included again to show it is different to the next item... even though they both have the same wrong spelling for Galvatron)

F1618 Hasbro Transformers Gavaltron Unicron Action Figure Pack - $110 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Gavaltron-Unicron-Action/dp/B08YJB9PGR)
(note that it says "pack" which suggests a multi-pack... or something included with Galvatron, who I think is supposed to be Leader sized, which would be just under $100 on its own)

F1208 Hasbro Transformers Generations Sideswipe and Nightprowler Action Figure - $77 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Sideswipe-Nightprowler/dp/B08SWJ25NL)
(claimed to be a Deluxe 2-pack of redecos of Sideswipe and Cheetor)

F2820 - Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Golden Deluxe Ranger Puffer Action Figur (https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B08YK51RKT) - $77.23

F2882 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Golden Deluxe Jackpot Action Figur - $58 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08YJD8FLS)
(said to be Golden Disk, not Golden like the Lagoon toys - price is too high for a Deluxe, so could be wrong (see next item) - the last Jackpot toy was a redeco of a Jazz toy)

F2813 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Golden Deluxe Terrorsaur Action Figur (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08YK6YYPW)

F2817 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Golden Voy Tigatron Action Figur - $39 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08YJN1HWM)
(price is too low, so could be wrong - could be mixed up with a Deluxe listing)

F2705 Hasbro Transformers Generations Deluxe: Blurr Action Figure - $39 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Deluxe-Action/dp/B08YJQT7DN)
(GEN Selects I think)

F2912 Hasbro Transformers Generations Voyager Megatron Action Figure - $59 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08YJYYGVZ)
(GEN Selects I think)

F0715 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series LDR 86 Slag N Dani Action Figure (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Action/dp/B08TMF8Z34)
(Slag & Daniel in a Leader class box?)

F0716 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series LDR TF2 Grindr Rav Action Figure - $87 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Grindr/dp/B08TLYXPD4)
(sounds like a Blackout "redeco" with Ravage instead of Scorponok)

F0791 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Voy 86 King Starsc Action Figure - $49 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Starsc/dp/B08TLQX5CY)
(probably the Earthrise Starscream with coronation gear)

F0788 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Deluxe Tf3 Jolt Action Figure - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Deluxe/dp/B08TLVZ2QD)

F0786 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Deluxe 86 Gnaw Action Figure - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Deluxe/dp/B08TM2YK15)

F0787 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Deluxe Tf2 Bumblebee with Sam Action Figure - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Bumblebee/dp/B08TLPV8MD)
(should be SS-74)

F0789 Hasbro Transformers Generations Studio Series Deluxe Tf3 Sideswipe Action Figure - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Studio-Sideswipe/dp/B08TLH5F51)
(we already have a Sideswipe toy, which is probably why the product description refers to SS-29... so maybe this one is meant to be for TF2, which was not a convertible)

F0681 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Shadow Panther Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3RSQ5S)

F0682 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Pipes Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3T7FC8)

F0683 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Slammer Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3S4QKX)

F0678 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Wheeljack Pr Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3RZH4N)

F0679 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe New Bone Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3S6T9Z)

F0680 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Tracks Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3TL3KK)

F0684 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Waspinator Action Figur - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3TT5FB)

F0701 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Galvatron Action Figur (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3TVZKR)

F0696 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Voyager Tigatron Action Figur - $48 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3S4GGP)

Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: Voyager Rhinox Action Figure (page not accessible at this time) - May - $48 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3SST73)

Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Deluxe Scorponok Action Figur (page not accessible at this time) - May - $35 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3S7PTK)

Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Core Soundwave Action Figur (page not accessible at this time) - May - $21 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3TFGMJ)

Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Core Autobot Fossil Action Figure (page not accessible at this time) - May - $21 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3S4LTH)

F1153 TRA GEN WFC K Commander Class (https://www.amazon.com.au/TRA-GEN-WFC-Commander-Class/dp/B08TLQ26D5)
(should be Rodimus)
The product description - "This copy is intended as placeholder text only and is not representative of individual items in the line."

F1152 Hasbro Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: K Titan Class Ark (2021) Action Figur (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08XBS2S33)


This happened once before, with the Last Knight movie I think... with someone at Amazon Australia listing up a lot of future toys before they should have, possibly given the details for them to add them as soon as the April 9th reveal by Hasbro. Maybe...

(there are 8 Kingdom Deluxes listed... so maybe there are 4 waves for Kingdom - I think we will find out on the 9th)

Paulbot
8th April 2021, 09:45 AM
The Goldbug would be another SG toy, like the Blurr, Megatron and Jettifre... I am totally cool with SG toys being some of the exclusives because it saves me money

griffin
8th April 2021, 04:31 PM
I think Hasbro may have jumped on Amazon Australia to fix the problem, as the items I posted up links to last night aren't showing up on the main Transformers page anymore (https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/page/6094121F-EFFA-46E8-94DF-6636E195FAE7?ingress=2&visitId=26ad3626-4370-4d3b-baff-42e3338a6f0f&ref_=ast_bln)... but the individual product pages are still there.
It was stealing a fair bit of the thunder of Hasbro America, by revealing some info before the official reveal tomorrow.

The only two items that are showing up today on the main Transformers page sound like Rescue Bots toys...

F0849 TRA RBA Jumbo Jet Wing Racer - $70 (https://www.amazon.com.au/TRA-RBA-Jumbo-Wing-Racer/dp/B08MJ8DZM9)
(that is probably that weird Optimus that turns into a jumbo jet with giant wings that can hold Rescue Bots cars)

F2731 Hasbro Transformers Bumblebee Roll and Convert Optimus Prime Action Figure - $87 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Bumblebee-Convert-Optimus/dp/B08SQTW817)


If hasbro are really going to be revealing all or most of those earlier items tomorrow, it is going to be a big few days as we digest all of the new stuff.

Tetsuwan Convoy
8th April 2021, 05:06 PM
Barney, Megatron, now T-Wrecks. Does the world really need more purple dinosaurs?

yes

griffin
8th April 2021, 06:44 PM
At least Hasbro America can't complain about the leaked Amazon listings, as they appear to have done it themselves (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/04/07/transformers-shattered-glass-collection-blurr-idws-shattered-glass-shards-comic-book-with-exclusive-variant-cover-listing-431034) with a Shattered Glass Blurr popping up on the Hasbro Pulse online store... which is said to come with an exclusive IDW comic.
(no images or other details, just like the early Amazon listings)

JJJ
8th April 2021, 07:09 PM
The Goldbug would be another SG toy

What in particular makes you think so?

griffin
8th April 2021, 08:48 PM
It was on one of the leaked listings a few months back, claiming that there were several Shattered Glass toys coming this year, and so far most of those names have shown up in product listings.

DELTAprime
8th April 2021, 09:29 PM
It was on one of the leaked listings a few months back, claiming that there were several Shattered Glass toys coming this year, and so far most of those names have shown up in product listings.

Ah damn. I need a Goldbug for my Thottlebots, and I don't collect SG.

JJJ
8th April 2021, 09:30 PM
Ah damn. I need a Goldbug for my Thottlebots, and I don't collect SG.

What he said. Ah well, I presume they're in the pipeline for the next year or two.

Paulbot
8th April 2021, 09:39 PM
The initial SG line up has Goldbug (instead of Bumblebee) - and it looks through the various leaks, all of FunPub's first run are getting a new non-BotCon related go - so I would think this listing is a Netflix Bumblebee in Black, Yellow and Blue as Goldbug.

You know what though - that likely means the Sideswipe listing is a SG Sideswipe - and that's why he comes with a Battlemaster because the SG one came with a Minicon (and he was also sold at BotCon with SG Blurr who's on the Hasbro Pulse site).

Someone was asking about a green version of the siege Sideswipe mould - this might be it!



Edit: Oh wait - the suggestion is Nightprowler is Cheetor - i was thinking a Lionizer repaint. Still Sideswipe could be SG....

G1Optimal
9th April 2021, 09:47 AM
Pipes has a proper Kingdom listing.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3T7FC8
"Ranger Puffer" is priced like it's a two pack which might be interesting to see if they do an alternate Huffer deco.

Most interesting is the Sideswipe and Nightprowler set, of which Nightprowler is an unreleased Cheetor deco. Sideswipe could also be the rumoured Earth mode. Though it doesn't say, I'm expecting it to be a Golden Disk style Amazon Exclusive.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Sideswipe-Nightprowler/dp/B08SWJ25NL?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Oh i see thats cool

Tha_Phantom
9th April 2021, 10:21 AM
Pipes has a proper Kingdom listing.
https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-War-Cybertron/dp/B08P3T7FC8
"Ranger Puffer" is priced like it's a two pack which might be interesting to see if they do an alternate Huffer deco.


I'd be amazed if Puffer does turn out to be a blue repaint of Huffer in addition to getting Pipes as a blue retool. Keep in mind that name is a fan term for a minibot variant that I doubt many people know (or care) about.
Then again, I'm sure we will still see a flood of complaints like with Deep Cover's "missing" lightbar. :rolleyes:

Autocon
11th April 2021, 11:02 PM
Ah yes huffer n puffer the smoking duo

Skyfire
12th April 2021, 12:09 AM
Ranger Puffer = Road Ranger (black Huffer repaint) and Puffer (blue Huffer repaint) combo perhaps?

https://tfsquareone.blogspot.com/2019/06/ceji-g1-puffer-pipes.html

DELTAprime
12th April 2021, 12:18 AM
Ranger Puffer = Road Ranger (black Huffer repaint) and Puffer (blue Huffer repaint) combo perhaps?

https://tfsquareone.blogspot.com/2019/06/ceji-g1-puffer-pipes.html

Hmmm. I never realised that G1 Huffer was so different to Pipes. I've only ever owned Pipes and I guess I've never taken a good look at Huffer pictures.

So it would seem Road Ranger and Puffer is the answer to what's in that pack.

G1Optimal
12th April 2021, 11:43 AM
Looks like amazon has released links for upcoming transformers
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/links-to-add-the-rest-of-2021-transformers-figures-to-amazon-wishlist-and-preorder/45833/
Source:seibertron


Studio Series Live Action

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series LDR TF2 GRINDR RAV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series DLX TF2 BB W SAM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series DLX TF2 JOLT
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series DLX TF2 SIDESWIPE
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series VOY TF6 Thrust
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Wave 4 Kingdom

Transformers TRA GEN WFC K Deluxe Shadow Panther
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN WFC K Deluxe Pipes
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN WFC K Deluxe Slammer
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN WFC K Deluxe WASPINATOR
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN WFC K Voyager TIGATRON
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Studio Series 86

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series LDR 86 SLAG N DANI
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series VOY 86 Wreck GAR
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series VOY 86 Sweep
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

Transformers TRA GEN Studio Series DLX 86 GNAW
https://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/add- ... formers-20

DELTAprime
12th April 2021, 12:21 PM
SS86 Slag images have been leaked online. He looks pretty much as you would expect.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/new-images-of-studio-series-86-slag-leaked/45836/

Paulbot
12th April 2021, 02:55 PM
I expected a little shorter in robot mode, but that's cartoon appropriate

Robzy
12th April 2021, 03:51 PM
Wow. How cool

Skyfire
12th April 2021, 10:39 PM
I'm glad Slag is Grimlock's height as it's cartoon accurate and they are indeed supposed to tower over (WFC) Optimus Prime. The height of Grimlock's subordinates is a thing that disappoints me with the POTPs. SS86 Slag looks great too.

I just hope they come through and make all 5 Dinobots (any rumours of Sludge or Snarl?). Looks like you guys with your Takara Volcanicus are safe for now :).

griffin
25th April 2021, 09:27 PM
The list compiled on tfw at this time (https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/04/07/new-amazon-australia-transformers-listings-shattered-glass-and-golden-disk-figures-project-bat-and-more-431028) and the others that I could see on the Amazon page...

(snip)


F1208 Hasbro Transformers Generations Sideswipe and Nightprowler Action Figure - $77 (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Generations-Sideswipe-Nightprowler/dp/B08SWJ25NL)
(claimed to be a Deluxe 2-pack of redecos of Sideswipe and Cheetor)



Another listing on the Amazon Australia pre-order page for domestically-held Transformers (https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/page/7CF05A11-8CB0-4712-B647-C0B087568F02?ingress=0&visitId=9e51102d-5dbf-4b56-b472-62c5c2cca9ea&productGridPageIndex=2) (toys sold and shipped by Amazon AU) is for another one of these Gen1 plus BW 2-packs... this time for "F1209 Mirage and Grimlock (https://www.amazon.com.au/Hasbro-Transformers-Classic-Deluxe-Mirage/dp/B08SWGGT5Y?ref_=ast_sto_dp)".
It is one of the listings that wont show the actual product page when you click on it, but someone on TFW has found a mirrored listing on another Amazon country page (https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/amazon-au-listing-for-new-mirage-figure.1212475/), which gives us the actual contents, letting us know that Grimlock should be a redeco of Voyager Dinobot.
The odd thing is that it is priced the same as the Sideswipe/Nightprowler, which looks to be two Deluxe toys... so maybe the price for Mirage/Grimlock is wrong.




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