New Masterpiece MP12

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I'm more interested in a possible MP Soundwave...woot!

[Hursticon]

I'm more interested in a possible MP Soundwave...woot!

Hehe.

Awesome news indeed, as mentioned elsewhere; I love Lamborghinis, especially in red, as well as the G1 original Sideswipe toy so I'll be looking forward greatly to picking this bloke up.

Here, here for a $100AUD or less price-tag and a domestic release!

[kup]

I agree with Dirge - there's no way that is going to be retooled into anything decently-resembling Sunstreaker in robot mode, although they might stick a supercharger engine and a new head on it, recolour it yellow and call it Sunstreaker anyway. Although I'd prefer it if they just did a straight yellow recolour and call it Tigertrack or Spin-Out. They generally recolour Masterpieces into the ground, so G2 Sideswipe (fingers crossed for a bandolier accessory) would be awesome. Red Alert is inevitable. Deep Cover and Clampdown would be sound choices. Breakdown is likely. Laster and Deadwheeler would be scraping the bottom of the barrel.

That's basically what we are saying. I believe that they will make this into Sunstreaker regardless of the original character differences. I would prefer a proper Sunstreaker but I don't think they would produce a whole new mold of basically the same car with a few accessories.

I am still unsure how they will handle licensing. I thought Lamborghini was a little bit sensitive.

[griffin]

Red Alert is much more significant than Sunstorm, and a far better option for a redeco than two black Convoys and a black Rodimus, so he's already a better option than half of the existing Masterpiece redecos. Is the actual numbering that important?

I wasn't saying Red Alert shouldn't be done. I was just saying that it shouldn't be done like Skywarp or Thundercracker, who both had their own MP number.
Sunstorm doesn't have its own number (it has Starscream's number, with s on the end)... just like the other redecos you mentioned - which was my point. If they are significant enough characters, they deserve their own (starting) MP number. Less significant characters should, and do, get a letter attached to someone else's number.

The importance of the numbering is subjective, but to me I feel that it shouldn't be blown out like the original series of JP Gen1 toys... it should be a small, select number in the Masterpiece line (like a Hall of Fame), and the numbering should reflect that - which it has, since we are only up to 11 after 10 years... averaging a new MP number each year.

[griffin]

That's basically what we are saying. I believe that they will make this into Sunstreaker regardless of the original character differences. I would prefer a proper Sunstreaker but I don't think they would produce a whole new mold of basically the same car with a few accessories.

Would collectors buy a big expensive yellow Sideswipe (robot) that was called Sunstreaker though?
Whenever a character is featured, like on Hall of Fame or on biocards, its more the robot than the alt-mode... so even if the car could be made to look like Sunstreaker, would fans buy a $200 yellow Sideswipe to go with their $200 red Sideswipe?
They could get away with it on a cheaper toy, but I just don't see them risking it with something so big and expensive as a MP figure, if the robot mode doesn't exactly homage the Gen1 character like all the other MP figures do.
But I'll wait and see, as they may well have multiple things planned to make mileage from that mould.

[gdmetro]

This is really awesome news- I will now gladly pick up mp10 and mp11. However it was mentioned elsewhere that the alt mode may be similar size to mp rodimus... if thats the case then would it be out Of scale with mp10?

If not how would they scale such autobot cars? Bigger than alternity/ classics deluxe and they would not scale with mp10 truck mode? But as those figures have shown.. A little too short in bot mode from recollection...

I hope they find a consistency of scale between alt and bot modes...

As for the sunstreaker issue, I give Takara more credit- to release a proper mould and not just a yellow sideswipe with a new head... They might milk sideswipe repaints first, aka red alert, etc..

Looking at the pic of mp12 drawing- if that is any indication of the final release then it is pretty faithful to g1- and I'm sure Takara would have accounted for a sunstreaker remold.. I hope anyway.

The biggest issue is the price point and frequency of release from this line. Previously a rumor from an insider said these were meant to be a mp sub- line (although his seems to have been designated as the next official mp). I think that although These more "minor characters" may be under a different set of uideline/policy then the past mps...although this is just my own speculation.

[kurdt_the_goat]

Glad for an unexpected character but at the same time my collection just feels incomplete without a Galvatron dammit! It'd be interesting if they did the MP Autobot cars in a smaller scale closer to Binaltech for scale - would have to assume they'd be cheaper that way as well - but i won't have any problem if he stands shoulder to shoulder with Hot Rod.

[Paulbot]

Red Alert they might do, but might be just a limited edition (Ehobby) redeco though, as the character isn't significant enough story-wise to be its own Masterpiece number.

Well if you look at the cartoon Red Alert has a starring role in a cartoon episode [Auto-berserk], Sideswipe never got that. He just hung around in group shots, gave people his backpack and pile-drived a few things (so he does have better accessories ).

The real argument is against Sideswipe ahead of Ironhide, Prowl, Jazz, Ratchet, Bumblebee etc

Would collectors buy a big expensive yellow Sideswipe (robot) that was called Sunstreaker though?
Whenever a character is featured, like on Hall of Fame or on biocards, its more the robot than the alt-mode... so even if the car could be made to look like Sunstreaker, would fans buy a $200 yellow Sideswipe to go with their $200 red Sideswipe?

I would but would still prefer to see Red Alert first and a proper Sunstreaker in my dreams.

[griffin]

The real argument is against Sideswipe ahead of Ironhide, Prowl, Jazz, Ratchet, Bumblebee etc

Indeed. I would have thought Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen would have been the next most cost-effective mould.

Bumblebee????
NOOOooooooo......

Too... many... Bees....

[kup]

Glad for an unexpected character but at the same time my collection just feels incomplete without a Galvatron dammit! It'd be interesting if they did the MP Autobot cars in a smaller scale closer to Binaltech for scale - would have to assume they'd be cheaper that way as well - but i won't have any problem if he stands shoulder to shoulder with Hot Rod.

I would have preferred a Galvatron and Shockwave without a doubt. I am not against another character like Sideswipe being made into an MP but he would not have been within my first 5 choices or preferences.