Quote Originally Posted by jazzcomp View Post
"good" condition - vague
"Loose" - out of box but good condition or loose/floppy joints
The 'good' description, along with excellent conition etc are always going to be vague depending on how you want to use them imo. I think loose is acceptable that one would believe it to be out of the box and if it were joints hopefully they's say loose joints.
Quote Originally Posted by Skullcruncher View Post
I don't mind that as being a toy you would have to have some expectation it was on a shelf or somewhere gathering dust. If its a box its easy for the seller to give it a wipe but some toys really need a good 10 minute clean - only using a compressed-air would get it super clean so unless the seller states its mint I would always have some expectation a clean would be in order.
I always give any toys I buy a clean. Never know whose grubby mits have been on it.
Quote Originally Posted by Sky Shadow View Post
It's okay for the box to be beaten up, so that would have been accurate if it had actually been sealed. MIB/MISB refers to the mintness of the toy, not the box.
I often wonder what the point of M of MISB is there for really. If it is in sealed box, which we assume means never opened, then the toys should be mint. Many figures come from the factory boxed and aren't mint. Add to that MISB, could mean a perfect toy in a sealed box, since there is no clarification of who or when the box was sealed a re-sealed box could well be a fair call.

Perhaps we should start a motion to have MISB changed to Factory sealed/never opened?