Was there ever a reissue of Shockwave?

[Hursticon]

Hey guys, I just won this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....=STRK:MEWNX:IT

And I was wondering if anybody could tell me if this is a reissue?, or at any rate, if Shockwave was ever reissued?.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[SkyWarp91]

According to tfwiki there were no reissues of G1 Shockwave.., (YAY)

[Hursticon]

According to tfwiki there were no reissues of G1 Shockwave.., (YAY)

Cheers man that is a good thing, although, 1AZRAEL1 has just made me aware of this link:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transf...on-review.html

Unfortunately, and as always, I'm not liking my odds...

[Skullcruncher]

No reissue - it has silver screws so looks like a KO....

[Hursticon]

Well, if it is a KO, what would be my standing as I've not paid for it yet would I be able to back out of the transaction as I was under the impression that it was an original?, or would I be likely to incur negative feedback?

[Eruntalon]

This is just my two cents on the auction:

"...Electronic and sound work well..."

"...leg is metal part..."

"...check details for the pictures..."

Grammatically these sentences don't sound very correct. Seeing as though your seller is from the UK I would like to assume that they could at least write their own language correctly into coherent sentences. The point I'm trying to get across is that in a lot of auctions for KO TFs is that there is a certain laxness in spelling and grammar which is more often common than not.

[GoktimusPrime]

Remember that it is against eBay user terms of service to sell counterfeit items, so that person shouldn't even be selling KOs in the first place. I would contact this person and say that it's come to your attention that the product is a fake and that you thought it was genuine. There was nothing in the auction description to let you know it was fake, and furthermore it's against ebay ToS to sell fakes, so it's perfectly reasonable for you to assume it was genuine.

Report the matter immediately to eBay and see if they can cancel your transaction or arrange to have your money refunded.

Be aware that even if the original Shockwave mould hasn't been destroyed or lost, it is a NON Takara mould which has not been acquired by Tomy and as such will probably never be reissued. Other such moulds include:
+ Jetfire
+ Deluxe Insecticons
+ Deluxe Autobots
...but a lot of Takara/TOMY-owned moulds have been KOed too, so be careful.

[Hursticon]

Well I've contacted eBay and notified them of my situation.

They've stated that I must wait for the seller to return my correspondence and that I should discuss with the seller the situation and that I should request that they issue me a cancellation of transaction request and go from there.

They've stated that if the seller doesn't respond in 3 days or cancels the transaction but issues a strike against my account, to contact ebay and they will further investigate the matter and if they determine that the strike was unduly posted that they would remove it.

The annoying thing is I should've seen this a mile away but I guess one makes mistakes when you've slept for an hour and your bidding on an auction at 4:00am in the morning.

The other annoyance is now I've got to play the waiting game as I have sent him notification that the item is a Knock-off and that I wish to have the transaction cancelled, but as he may not be aware himself that the item is a Knock-off I will hold back on posting negative feedback myself.

Man I hope this goes smoothly but I suppose every buyer, especially a collector, has to go through this at some stage.

[griffin]

I was gonna say that I'd give the seller the benefit of the doubt based on the high feedback number, but then looked at what else they are selling, and see they have a KO Defensor listed.
And to make it even more suspicious, they have their feedback listings set as 'Private', preventing anyone from seeing what they've sold before (to see if they have a history of selling KOs).

See, if these suspicious things hadn't popped up, I would have suggested that it was just a dealer who themselves got duped, and didn't realise it was a KO. But since that is unlikely, I'd definitely not pay for the auction, and do as ebay says to keep your own profile intact.

This is why I hate counterfeit TFs - so many people, even fans, get fooled so easily, spoiling the fun for real fans who thought they had the real thing.

[SkyWarp91]

I was gonna say that I'd give the seller the benefit of the doubt based on the high feedback number, but then looked at what else they are selling, and see they have a KO Defensor listed.
And to make it even more suspicious, they have their feedback listings set as 'Private', preventing anyone from seeing what they've sold before (to see if they have a history of selling KOs).

See, if these suspicious things hadn't popped up, I would have suggested that it was just a dealer who themselves got duped, and didn't realise it was a KO. But since that is unlikely, I'd definitely not pay for the auction, and do as ebay says to keep your own profile intact.

This is why I hate counterfeit TFs - so many people, even fans, get fooled so easily, spoiling the fun for real fans who thought they had the real thing.

I agree with griffin, even though KOs might be cheaper, the quality of the plastic and functions of KO figures is so abysmal you feel shame for buying them rather than pride that you saved many dollars.

But the overall lesson learnt here - Do thorough investigations into TF especially with online shopping, comb the interwebs for as much information regarding counterfiets as possible and don't rush to click the 'bid' or 'buy now' button. Control your urges, because like Transformers (especially those Decrepticons), eBay sellers are MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE.