The Greatest Non-G1 Legacy Transformers Ever.

[griffin]

I still object (from a previous discussion topic) that the character of Sunstorm isn't Neo-Gen1. We had mutliple coloured seekers in Gen1, but none had the name Sunstorm, and none definitely had the god-complex character of Sunstorm.
It was a 2003 retcon, so the character of Sunstorm is only 7 years old, which should make it just as eligible as The Fallen (also a Gen1 character only 7 years old), and Drift (only 2 years old).
My opinion anyway, as I have a thing against 'fanboy' retconning of Gen1, decades afterwards...

[Hursticon]

My opinion anyway, as I have a thing against 'fanboy' retconning of Gen1, decades afterwards...

I also share this opinion.
The only way they could truly be legit G1 is if they're time travelers, built with Flux Capacitors.

[5FDP]

My opinion anyway, as I have a thing against 'fanboy' retconning of Gen1, decades afterwards...

+2. There is no such thing as a female 'red' Tracks.

[GoktimusPrime]

Retconned G1: Sunstorm. Set the benchmark in terms of an incredibly obscure no-name generic Seeker repaint who was retconned with a new persona by Ichikawa Hirofumi... then the popularity of the character just exploded!

When the toy first came out, it really did NOT appeal to me at all. But I really wanted Hauler, and of course both Sunstorm and Hauler come together. I asked around if anyone wanted Sunstorm and if they were willing to halves with me - but I had _no_ takers. So clearly when the pre-orders for this set came out, there was just no interest for Sunstorm. Now I just cannot believe how some fans fap over this guy... a guy that nobody gave a crap about before the e-Hobby toy!

From Car Robot (RiD) I would say any of the original moulded Autobots (e.g. Super Fire Convoy, Car Robot Bros. etc.) because it was the first time HasTak used contemporary toy engineering developed during Beast Wars, and applied them to licensed vehicles. This in turn inspired the creation of Binaltech/Alternators and has pretty much become a kind of new benchmark for Transformers today; where we have vehicular alt modes, high detailed sculpts, paint apps, articulated robot modes, built-in weapons/accessories etc. If I had to pick a single character, I guess I'd go for Mach Alert/Prowl... just cos I quite like that mould.

From Armada I'd say their greatest legacy would be the Mini-Cons. A whole new faction and type of Transformer which persists till this day. And I quite like the concept of Mini-Cons, although the execution in some Armada toys weren't so great. But I do like the idea of smaller Transformers being attached to larger ones and powering them up. It's like the concept of Nebulans, but cooler because unlike Nebulans the Mini-Cons themselves are Transformers in their own right. But if I had to name a single toy as the greatest of Armada... awww, as a G1 fan I have to say Unicron. But G1 bias aside, it'd have to be Shockwave/Tidalwave.

With Super Link/Energon I would go with Kicker or Snowcat because they kinda represent the earliest examples of Crossover Transformers. Kicker is of course a Microman figure made for the Transformers toyline. His box features both Transformers and Microman logos - as 2004 celebrated the 20th anniversary of Transformers and 30th anniversary of Microman. And of course, Microman is one of the ancestors of Transformers! Snowcat's vehicle mode is of course based on a vehicle from G.I. Joe, another Hasbro franchise; and that's what Crossovers is all about - crossing Transformers over with other Hasbro franchises like Star Wars and Marvel. Yeah, I know Transformers Animorphs came before, but Animorphs isn't a HasTak franchise... plus the Animorph TFs sucked. (and before anyone says "But TF Crossovers suck too," -- no seriously, TF Animorphs makes the worst Crossover TF look awesome... they're _that_ crap!).

Cybertron: Primus. Much like Unicron, Primus and indeed planet Cybertron were just dreams come true for G1 fans.

Movieverse: Real Gear Robots. Not since the days of G1's Megatron, Soundwave, Browning, Reflector, Blaster, Perceptor etc. have we seen near Transformers with near 1:1 scale alt modes! Okay, there was Armada Laserbeak, but he was crap (even its designer would point and laugh at it )

[Sky Shadow]

I still object (from a previous discussion topic) that the character of Sunstorm isn't Neo-Gen1. We had mutliple coloured seekers in Gen1, but none had the name Sunstorm, and none definitely had the god-complex character of Sunstorm.
It was a 2003 retcon, so the character of Sunstorm is only 7 years old, which should make it just as eligible as The Fallen (also a Gen1 character only 7 years old), and Drift (only 2 years old).
My opinion anyway, as I have a thing against 'fanboy' retconning of Gen1, decades afterwards...

We do know that when Sunstorm was first released by E-Hobby, it was with the intention of being the similarly coloured Seeker from More Than Meets The Eye, and we don't know that the yellowy-orange-and-white Seeker from MTMTE didn't necessarily have a god complex. I can see how his character is only seven years old. However, given that his first appearance is supposed to be the first episode of the cartoon and his body type is one of the most Geewun moulds in existence, I can't see how he could be anything but a G1 legacy Transformer. (If there's enough disagreement, then that's cool, because it would mean Slipstream would count too, and she's awesome. )

[Sky Shadow]

Goki, that's a thorough post, but maybe go back to reread the original question, because 90% of your suggestions are G1 inspired.

Although you did indirectly remind me that Side Burn/Speedbreaker was huge in his time - he was well and truly the Bumblebee/Hot Rod/Cheetor/Hot Shot etc. of 2000-2001.

[Tober]

What about Glit (Shattered Glass Ravage) - How many Transformers have a facebook page?

Which reminds me, Tigatron has gotten some love since Beast Wars too.

[Sky Shadow]

What about Glit (Shattered Glass Ravage) - How many Transformers have a facebook page?

True. Although Kup has a Myspace! http://www.myspace.com/lostkup

Which reminds me, Tigatron has gotten some love since Beast Wars too.

I should definitely add Tigatron to the next update. And I forgot Airazor too, who's notable if nothing else for being first non-recolour female Transformer toy. I think.

[liegeprime]

I should definitely add Tigatron to the next update. And I forgot Airazor too, who's notable if nothing else for being first non-recolour female Transformer toy. I think.

He/she along with Nitro Convoy/Override are firsts for being the first gender bending TFs in all generations now that's their mark in the hallmarks of TF fame though not of their own choice, Hasbro and TakTOMY didnt talk that one out properly

[SilverDragon]

Well, aside from the BW characters...

*Armada Hot Shot. He was effectivly Bumblebee for a new generation (until Bumblebee came back). Also, jaAm.
* Movie Bonecrusher. He hates everything. So much depth and personality in three words. His hate was so strong that even the Pit itself couldn't hold him, and any significant film time warped the film itself (which is why he appeared for only five seconds in RotF)