Sneak Peak At New Cartoon Bumblebee

[Robzy]

After the first couple of weeks of release, did it continue to profit like Avatar did or was there a steep downfall in Box office returns?

This reminds me of a truism that I was told when I worked in retail: "Any idiot can sell something once". The real trick is to keep them coming back with a good product.

People went to see the 2nd movie on the strength of the first. I'll wager more than a few came out feeling seriously dudded. Of course, by then it was too late, as by the time you realised it was awful, they already had your money.

Many will be far warier about seeing the 3rd instalment. About the only way that TF2 was any kind of triumph was financially. It's very wearing to see people continue to raise this as evidence that the film was good. It's kind of like claiming that McDonald's is the best food in the world since so many people eat it.

Off-topic, I know. Sorry.

Both of you... QFT!

Back on topic, I'll give this new cartoon a chance. The pic doesn't look too bad, but I'll wait and see.

[i_amtrunks]

Reserving final judgement until we get some animated pieces, and I get to see other robot designs.

But if Bumblebee is an indication of the aesthetics, then this series wont really appeal to me.

[Sky Shadow]

The movie made more money than God. People went to see it and possibly saw it again and probably told their friends to go see it. And then bought some toys. And then bought the DVD.

Of course Transfans who thought it sucked probably did the same thing too.

Hmm... I'm a Transfan who thought it sucked. Let's see...

1. "People went to see it". True, I went to see it with free tickets (thanks to Griffin and Hasbro. Cumulative amount of money I've spent on ROTF: $0)

3. "and possibly saw it again". Um... no. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

4. "and probably told their friends to go see it." If by that, you mean "told their friends it wasn't worth watching." Then yes. Except, I guess you don't mean that. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

5. "And then bought some toys". I bought heaps of Transformers. Unfortunately for Hasbro, none of them were ROTF toys - they were all vintage G1 or other secondary market toys. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

6. "And then bought the DVD." I didn't do that either. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

So it seems Hasbro has made no money from me out of Revenge Of The Fallen. And yet in the past, their franchises that were actually good (G1, G2, Beast Wars, RID, Animated etc.) resulted in Hasbro making ridiculous amounts of money out of me. (I don't actually know if there's a moral in there somewhere.)

Oh, and...

7. "The movie made more money than God." Net income for ROTF: about 650 million dollars. Revenue for just the Catholic Church in 2009 alone: about fifteen billion dollars.

Myth busted.

[snazzbot 101]

Hmm... I'm a Transfan who thought it sucked. Let's see...

1. "People went to see it". True, I went to see it with free tickets (thanks to Griffin and Hasbro. Cumulative amount of money I've spent on ROTF: $0)

3. "and possibly saw it again". Um... no. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

4. "and probably told their friends to go see it." If by that, you mean "told their friends it wasn't worth watching." Then yes. Except, I guess you don't mean that. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

5. "And then bought some toys". I bought heaps of Transformers. Unfortunately for Hasbro, none of them were ROTF toys - they were all vintage G1 or other secondary market toys. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

6. "And then bought the DVD." I didn't do that either. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

So it seems Hasbro has made no money from me out of Revenge Of The Fallen. And yet in the past, their franchises that were actually good (G1, G2, Beast Wars, RID, Animated etc.) resulted in Hasbro making ridiculous amounts of money out of me. (I don't actually know if there's a moral in there somewhere.)

Oh, and...

7. "The movie made more money than God." Net income for ROTF: about 650 million dollars. Revenue for just the Catholic Church in 2009 alone: about fifteen billion dollars.

Myth busted.

$800million+ in tickets
$200million+ in disks
$600million+ in merchandising

Hasbro and Paramount does not care about you think.

The Myth of Transfan self importance: Confirmed.

[Robzy]

Hmm... I'm a Transfan who thought it sucked. Let's see...

1. "People went to see it". True, I went to see it with free tickets (thanks to Griffin and Hasbro. Cumulative amount of money I've spent on ROTF: $0)

3. "and possibly saw it again". Um... no. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

4. "and probably told their friends to go see it." If by that, you mean "told their friends it wasn't worth watching." Then yes. Except, I guess you don't mean that. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

5. "And then bought some toys". I bought heaps of Transformers. Unfortunately for Hasbro, none of them were ROTF toys - they were all vintage G1 or other secondary market toys. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

6. "And then bought the DVD." I didn't do that either. (CAOMISOROTF: $0)

So it seems Hasbro has made no money from me out of Revenge Of The Fallen. And yet in the past, their franchises that were actually good (G1, G2, Beast Wars, RID, Animated etc.) resulted in Hasbro making ridiculous amounts of money out of me. (I don't actually know if there's a moral in there somewhere.)

Oh, and...

7. "The movie made more money than God." Net income for ROTF: about 650 million dollars. Revenue for just the Catholic Church in 2009 alone: about fifteen billion dollars.

Myth busted.

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Dude - you just made my day!! (esp with Point 7) That was gold!

Seriously, I can't believe I've spent more money on ROTF than you. I, unfortunately, paid for myself and my girlfriend to see it () and I've also bought ROTF Legends. At least most of my ROTF toy buying was done before I saw the film, but it promptly stopped straight away afterwards! Other than that, I'm in the same boat as you.

But, be wary about dissing ROTF in these parts... you might get your head bitten off!!

[Sky Shadow]

$800million+ in tickets
$200million+ in disks
$600million+ in merchandising

Hasbro and Paramount does not care about you think.

The Myth of Transfan self importance: Confirmed.

So you are a Transfan then?

I have never thought the long-term fandom was that important either, but when you put it in those monetary terms it turns out that maybe we are. It means that even if the whole ROTF kit and kaboodle made them about a billion dollars, as a fraction of that, we're actually relatively important. Say I spent $5000 on secondary-market Transformers last year (which is a very conservative estimate.) That's about 1/200,000th of what that film made. And none of my Transformers money went directly to Hasbro or Paramount, because none of it was spent on ROTF stuff, because I didn't think ROTF or its toys were worth spending my Transformers budget on. So from that perspective, 1/200,000 is a fraction which - in the scheme of things - is a lot.

[SMHFConvoy]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Dude - you just made my day!! (esp with Point 7) That was gold!

Seriously, I can't believe I've spent more money on ROTF than you. I, unfortunately, paid for myself and my girlfriend to see it () and I've also bought ROTF Legends. At least most of my ROTF toy buying was done before I saw the film, but it promptly stopped straight away afterwards! Other than that, I'm in the same boat as you.

But, be wary about dissing ROTF in these parts... you might get your head bitten off!!

Sky Shadow has nothing to fear. Royally ROTF sucked.

As for Hasbro making money hand over fist in these, "troubled times" people are watching their dollars. So Hasbro appealing to their, "self important fans" might be to their benefit.

[Lord_Zed]

Funny how many threads end up this way after ROTF is mentioned, maybe we need a new section.


On the topic of the toon, I would think Hasbro would do market research and read the papers and realise that ROTF wasn't exactly a 4 star film. On the other hand characters like Movie Bumblebee are probably among their most recognizable today so yeah maybe we will get a nice crossbreed. Personally I like a bit of movie aesthetics for a change, my beef is with so called script writers and director of a certain film.

So yeah i'll give this toon a chance.

[GoktimusPrime]

See... at least Sky Shadow, as someone who disliked ROTF, can walk away and say that he's spent nothing on it.

I like ROTF. I don't love it, but I don't dislike it either. So I'm happy to spend money to see it and buy toys, merchandise etc. But I think snazzbot made a point about people who thought it sucked but still went ahead and spent their money on it anyway.

Seriously - we all vote with our wallets. I remember when everyone was anticipating the release of Star Wars Ep II, I was talking with a guy at uni who was whinging about Ep I and utterly convinced that Ep II would surely suck. At the end of his anti Star Wars Prequel rantage, I said, "but you're still gonna pay to watch Episode 2 aren't you?" and he replied, "Yes," at which point I said, "Then George Lucas has your money." -- he conceded to that point.

If someone really hasn't enjoyed the live action movies up to this point, then _WHY_ give Michael Bay any more of your hard earned money? That's what I don't get. (o_O) It's as if some fans just can't wait to watch TF3 then they can't wait to hop online and b!tch about it. (-_-) If I think I'm not going to like a movie then I don't watch it! (dun dun DUNN!) For instance I really disliked Fantastic Four. So when Rise of the Silver Surfer came out I refused to go watch it... and thank the Celestial Teapot for that, cos I've since seen it on TV and yeah... I'm glad I didn't pay to see it.

[loophole]

If I think I'm not going to like a movie then I don't watch it! (dun dun DUNN!) For instance I really disliked Fantastic Four. So when Rise of the Silver Surfer came out I refused to go watch it... and thank the Celestial Teapot for that, cos I've since seen it on TV and yeah... I'm glad I didn't pay to see it.

um... how do you know that your not gonna like it if you havent seen it im sure plenty of people loved the first TF movie but disliked the second one. And how did you know that you disliked Fantastic Four until AFTER you watched it