Govt wants ISPs to record browsing history

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

I do agree with you but I wouldn't want a govt with Tony Abbot in charge.

+2. It's kinda sad when the best you can say for the nominal leader of the country is 'Well, he's not as bad as the other guy.', and even more sad that that's pretty much always the case.

Our best bet here is to get the Greens the balance of power in the Senate, since both of the major 2 & 1/2 parties (Labor and Lib/Nat) are all too happy to trade civil liberties and due process for the illusion of safety.

[SGB]

Our best bet here is to get the Greens the balance of power in the Senate

That's actually looking very likely.

[1orion2many]

I always vote for the Greenies, Labour lost my vote over 20 years ago

[fatbot]

I always vote for the Greenies, Labour lost my vote over 20 years ago

Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.

You can - and IMO should -number your own preferences you know, I always do - IIRC this time around the Greens have an official line of voters should DIY. Also, the way they negotiate preferences is by trying for Senate seats, so in this case it's the same difference as far as veto power in the Senate goes.

Doing some quick research I dug up the Greens policy pages on Science and Technologyand Media and Communications - while they have an emphasis on 'net neutrality there's nothing specific about interent privacy unless it's in their full policy document, which I can't really be bothered reading through. I'd say it's still a pretty safe bet they'd be opposed to the filter and mandatory data retention given their broader stance, but it is probably worth emailing them with your concerns about the filter/data retention and asking them what their official position on them is.
I have a friend in the party and will send him a message checking into this - if I can get an official stance I'll post it here.

[SGB]

Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.

Not if you vote below the line.

I'd say it's still a pretty safe bet they'd be opposed to the filter and mandatory data retention given their broader stance, but it is probably worth emailing them with your concerns about the filter/data retention and asking them what their official position on them is.

The Greens are opposed to the filter and have said they will not vote for it.

As for the data retention issue, I suspect they're likely to oppose that as well. Scott Ludlam has said he'll be discussing this issue with the party.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

The Greens are opposed to the filter and have said they will not vote for it.

As for the data retention issue, I suspect they're likely to oppose that as well. Scott Ludlam has said he'll be discussing this issue with the party.

You beat me to it - here's the transcript of Ludlum's speech.

I have also held back from declaring the Greens' voting intentions on this issue in the faint hope that by the time we saw legislation the minister might have accommodated at least some of the concerns that have been put to him by a huge range of stakeholders. But, on the back of the Four Corners piece the other night, it is pretty obvious that this is a false hope. So let me remove that ambiguity once and for all. If the government presents its mandatory internet censorship scheme to the parliament in the form that the minister has been describing to us, the Australian Greens will vote against it.

In closing, in the brief time remaining to me, I just want to give you an example of the kind of opposition that the minister has drawn, and one of the reasons why this proposal has drawn such far-reaching criticism. Suzanne Dvorak from Save the Children Australia has said:

The lack of evidence to support the efficacy of the Government's planned internet filter suggests that the money could be better spent on internet safety education for children and parents, an investment that will offer children greater protection online and offline.

I would like to heartily endorse those comments. It is not good enough for the government to simply get this issue out of the way during the election campaign and then bring it back straight afterwards. That is an act of calculated cowardice. I think it is very important for the government to drop the mandatory filter; to do it now, before the election; and to work with the Greens, the opposition and, most importantly, with the broader community, to provide a safe online environment for Australian children.

[1orion2many]

Which, due to preferences, the vote you cast goes to labour.

Only if your to lazy to number all the boxes I thought

[SGB]

IIA statement on Data Retention

[Hursticon]

I like how the Attorney-General's Department expect the Industry to foot the bill for the retention of data and the process required in order to do so as well as the storage required .

The whole "We want to make Internet use in Australia more secure, but... We want you to retain private information, pay for it, store it and manage it" statement is so rude and a joke!.

I like how they don't want to spend any money on storing the retained data in a Government controlled central location, I agree in not keeping one's eggs in a single basket but I think they should at least play some sort of role seeming as it is their legislation that they want to introduce.