Aliens

[Demonac]

I think ufos fall into 2 catagories

1. government/mililtary aircraft
2. aliens

Actually, the vast majority of 'UFO' sightings is the planet Venus.
Other things I'd put above aliens: wildlife, commercial aircraft, shooting stars, satellites, drugs.

[Hursticon]

Actually, the vast majority of 'UFO' sightings is the planet Venus.
Other things I'd put above aliens: wildlife, commercial aircraft, shooting stars, satellites, drugs.

LOL - Mostly drugs IMO.


Personally,
I'm of the opinion that no human on Earth could possibly formulate an accurate opinion on what constitutes life or it's environment as even the most intelligent person on the planet really knows absolutely squat on a Universal level and therefore couldn't accurately fathom what another form of life could be comprised of or it's environment.

Unfortunately we humans are, at present, condemned to only understand that which is immediately around us and that which has come before - Even the most open of minds is limited by the overwhelming mass of closed minds that populates this planet as it is only something in the vicinity of 5% of the world's population that is actually doing any actual thinking, the other 85% just live off of what the others come up with.

@Autocon: They could indeed be studying us but I IMO doubt this because what could they possibly learn from us? - Just by visiting they will of displayed how vastly superior to us they are, so it would be more likely that they'd be visiting a zoo of sorts.

@SkyWarp91: I hear that, or the Xenomorphs or Borg!

@Klystron: Ah, Light's speed - That old chestnut , that is easily the biggest hurdle any life form would have to overcome and if it happens to result in anything like Event Horizon, count me out!

[GoktimusPrime]

Personally,
I'm of the opinion that no human on Earth could possibly formulate an accurate opinion on what constitutes life or it's environment as even the most intelligent person on the planet really knows absolutely squat on a Universal level and therefore couldn't accurately fathom what another form of life could be comprised of or it's environment.

Have you seen or read Ghost In The Shell? I think you'd like it. It aired on SBS earlier this week. If you haven't seen it I recommend picking it up from a comic store or on DVD. I'd lend you my comic book, but it's in Japanese.

Unfortunately we humans are, at present, condemned to only understand that which is immediately around us and that which has come before - Even the most open of minds is limited by the overwhelming mass of closed minds that populates this planet as it is only something in the vicinity of 5% of the world's population that is actually doing any actual thinking, the other 85% just live off of what the others come up with.

We haven't even fully explored our own planet, let alone space. e.g. the ocean depths still remain a mystery to us - it's not uncommon for people to discover new species. We know so little about species like the giant squid -- most of the specimens we've seen have been juveniles. Sightings of full grown adults have been rare.

They could indeed be studying us but I IMO doubt this because what could they possibly learn from us? - Just by visiting they will of displayed how vastly superior to us they are, so it would be more likely that they'd be visiting a zoo of sorts.

The immense resources and cost required to even travel to Earth from the nearest galaxy would make occasional visits impractical unless they were able to profit from coming here (e.g. conquest, plundering resources etc.).

Imagine if we discovered the existence of an intelligent but primitive alien species in Alpha Centauri -- say with the cognitive level of chimpanzees. Would we bother to spend zillions of dollars to send a mission to study these creatures if there were nothing to gain? If they had something we wanted, like say Unobtainium, then we'd colonise them. If they resisted, we'd happily displace them (or even annihilate them).

[LordCyrusOmega]

I think we as humans we need to re-evaluate what 'life' is. We think of life as appearing in carbon form but that doesn't mean life can evolve from some other base element.

Light speed. Apparantly it can't be done because it violates Einsteins theory of relativity. Nothing can or will move faster then the speed of light.
Black Holes are named because nothing can escape them even light. Yet Hawking Radiation does escape them. If light is the fastest speed in the universe and nothing can move faster then light then where does that leave Hawking Radiation? It moves fast enough to escape a Black Hole and yet Light can not.

[Hursticon]

Have you seen or read Ghost In The Shell? I think you'd like it. It aired on SBS earlier this week. If you haven't seen it I recommend picking it up from a comic store or on DVD. I'd lend you my comic book, but it's in Japanese.

Oh yeah man, I've seen that stunning Anime and it's sequel a number of times and I thoroughly love them both.
Much like the scene with The Architect, both OVAs require a couple of sittings to fully digest the amount of philosophy and theory contained within them.

Great, great OVAs and I imagine the Manga would be even better.
(Damn my linguistic ineptitude! )

We haven't even fully explored our own planet, let alone space. e.g. the ocean depths still remain a mystery to us - it's not uncommon for people to discover new species. We know so little about species like the giant squid -- most of the specimens we've seen have been juveniles. Sightings of full grown adults have been rare.

Indeed, I often wonder what things we'd discover if the sorts of money being thrown at outward exploration, were to be thrown at inward investigation.
I love hearing about new specie discoveries as I like the idea that there are still places, above water , that have yet to have a Human in or around it's presence for at least 1000 years.

The immense resources and cost required to even travel to Earth from the nearest galaxy would make occasional visits impractical unless they were able to profit from coming here (e.g. conquest, plundering resources etc.).

I whole heartedly agree Goki, hence why I believe if we were ever to be visited we would most likely never live long enough to know about it.
(The zoo analogy is a rather optimistic view IMO )

Imagine if we discovered the existence of an intelligent but primitive alien species in Alpha Centauri -- say with the cognitive level of chimpanzees. Would we bother to spend zillions of dollars to send a mission to study these creatures if there were nothing to gain? If they had something we wanted, like say Unobtainium, then we'd colonise them. If they resisted, we'd happily displace them (or even annihilate them).

Exactly dude, for our current culture - The only thing that would keep us going back is money or the prospect of it.


We as a species, have an exceedingly long way to go.

[Autocon]

@Autocon: They could indeed be studying us but I IMO doubt this because what could they possibly learn from us? - Just by visiting they will of displayed how vastly superior to us they are, so it would be more likely that they'd be visiting a zoo of sorts.
[B]

Excactly lol We're going on holidays! Going to visit the planet called Dirt with those fleshy humans!

[Autocon]

Actually, the vast majority of 'UFO' sightings is the planet Venus.
Other things I'd put above aliens: wildlife, commercial aircraft, shooting stars, satellites, drugs.

have u watched: I Know What I Saw?

id like to know how accurate this dvd is, its very compelling

[Demonac]

have u watched: I Know What I Saw?

I'd like to know how accurate this dvd is, its very compelling

I'll watch it later today.

[Demonac]

I've watched the first part of the documentary, and I can't say I'm impressed.
Regarding the Phoenix Lights, did they bother to look up Mitch Stanley?
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1997-...-ufo-cover-up/
Here, they have an answer from someone who saw the lights with a telescope, yet they pretend he didn't exist.
How many astronomers (amateur & professional) are interviewed in this 'doco'?