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    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post

    But anyway, if retooling moulds is as cheap and easy as you say it is (which is contrary to what Takara told us back in 2000 - unless there have been considerable improvements in technology since then, I wouldn't know
    Wow sooooo much has happened in technology in 11 years

    I will tell you how simple it is. If you have the original figure, you bring it to a moulder (there are heaps in Hong Kong). They will usually charge between 5-10k AUD for a full mould for average toy. They will usually use this 3D scanning machine before moulding to create all the pieces. For ones that a slightly off, they will use the computer to recreate the mould. When its exactly as they need it. Give it a few hours, mould is made.
    The price of the mould then depends on how many you want to make. A mould will usually make 10k pieces. If you are selling mass retail and will continue to use the mould then i suspect it will be more. The Devastator mould would cost Takara between 60-70k AUD but I am sure they will continue to use it for the next 10 years

    Hence why all the henkeis are being reissued easily.

    It's a piece of cake in all honesty.

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    Skullcruncher say powerdashers need reissue! Me want powerdashers with shiny new chrome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullcruncher View Post
    Skullcruncher say powerdashers need reissue! Me want powerdashers with shiny new chrome!
    Hursticon concurs, along with Reflector!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltraMagnus View Post
    Wow sooooo much has happened in technology in 11 years

    I will tell you how simple it is. If you have the original figure, you bring it to a moulder (there are heaps in Hong Kong). They will usually charge between 5-10k AUD for a full mould for average toy. They will usually use this 3D scanning machine before moulding to create all the pieces. For ones that a slightly off, they will use the computer to recreate the mould. When its exactly as they need it. Give it a few hours, mould is made.
    The price of the mould then depends on how many you want to make. A mould will usually make 10k pieces. If you are selling mass retail and will continue to use the mould then i suspect it will be more. The Devastator mould would cost Takara between 60-70k AUD but I am sure they will continue to use it for the next 10 years

    Hence why all the henkeis are being reissued easily.

    It's a piece of cake in all honesty.

    In 2000, no google, facebook, smartphones, broadband home access, tablets... you get the drift!
    To be honest, I never swallowed the 'Too hard and expensive!' excuse. For many years, KOers have been able to very easily and accurately reproduce molds with very little financial penalty or they would not be able to sell KOs as cheaply as they normally do. If reproducing a toy for a KOer was 1/5 as expensive as it is claimed to be, then we wouldn't have so many of them out there.

    I think it was more about a willingness to do so rather than a financial hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    If reproducing a toy for a KOer was 1/5 as expensive as it is claimed to be, then we wouldn't have so many of them out there.
    Probably because KOers had 1/5 of the quality control employees

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    Thanks for the length of your response Goktimus, that answers a lot.
    Secondly, when you list all of the toys reissued (mental note to self, must track these down) that is actually fairly good coverage, and better than I thought. I didn't know some if those other jets even had been reissued, like thrust. I hope you are right and they see the demand for another thrust release
    On the lookout for MISB Headmaster Highbrow, Takara or Hasbro. I'm sure I could make you a sweet deal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1AZRAEL1 View Post
    Probably because KOers had 1/5 of the quality control employees
    Recently Has-Tak's QC has been questionable, particularly on the Hasbro side of things.

    'Quality' is no longer something that only a 'legit' or large corporate company guarantees, nowadays its often the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kup View Post
    Recently Has-Tak's QC has been questionable, particularly on the Hasbro side of things.

    'Quality' is no longer something that only a 'legit' or large corporate company guarantees, nowadays its often the opposite.
    Yea I know, it was just my (bad) attempt at a joke

    QC has become a bit of an issue in that last few years for anything TF related really. I remember that Encore Bruticus had a few problems himself, just hoping that Devs doesn't suffer from problems.

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    cool!! if the price is right i'll probably get one

    even if the price isnt right i'll still praobably get one

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    Quote Originally Posted by reillyd View Post
    ... I didn't know some if those other jets even had been reissued, like thrust. I hope you are right and they see the demand for another thrust release
    Wait, I don't recall having ever seeing a Thrust or Ramjet reissue. Are there e-hobby reissues of them?

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