WOW Hursty!! congrats!!. hehehehe 1Azrael1 mine is on October much sooner than 5FDP and you know what I want as well ahahahahah! and to answer yuor query about the TF situation here (Phil) - no the 2 OLs we were after are gone and I was prepared to shell out the 30thou for the boxed one at that. anyways Congrats again Hursty - hmmmmm gold chrome on that kitty is awesome, but I still prefer the original Botcon Ravage mold